Kurt Cobain= GOD!!!

[Swedish]

Can somebody speak Swedish???

[HippieChild]

Courtney is a real Bit*ch!!! Kurt is best !!!
He was killed by Courtney Love!!!!
That Bit*ch, I will kill her!!!!

Whoa dude! Ever hear of self-incrimination? Be careful what you say; it could come back at you and bite you in the ass.

[HippieChild]

Can somebody speak Swedish

I can say "Cocoa." ;D

I speak italian too; wanna hear?

PIZZA!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

I so slay me. ;D

[DirtGrrl]

Guest-Swedish said:

Can somebody speak Swedish???

Well I'm rusty, but ja jag pratar svenska!

[visitor]

el duce,i believe, was not out for publicity or for money when he let out courtneys little secret. I think that she threatened him about what she would "do" if he ever spilled his guts. I think he thought this a challenge and opened the can of worms just to say "f**k you courtney you dont intimidate me, Bring it on, one of us may go down but hopefully it will be YOU" unfortunately the pregnant dog keeps her word but she gets someone else to wear the blood on their hands so(so she thinks) will cover her ass

[visitor]

HippieChild said:

Frankly I'm very curious to see this documentary; unfortunately none of the cable stations are running it and my DVD player is on the fritz due to an over eager five year old and a Dora The Explorer disk. I'll spare you the details. ;D If anyone hears of it coming on IFC or SUNDe stations, let me know.

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if you dare to risk piracey: E-mule, kazaa

[DollyAlys]

I have Broomfield's documentry, I don't think it answered many questions.

[itslikeatradeoff]

DollyAlys said:

I have Broomfield's documentry, I don't think it answered many questions.

I refuse to watch it.There was one error I know of who knows how many more errors he made.Not the least bit credible.

[HippieChild]

I want to see it because I'm curious. I've seen excerpts that I've downloaded from www.justiceforkurt.com but I haven't seen it in it's entirety yet. I hear Hank comes off as a big buffoon. Figures.

I still fail to understand why, no matter how awful she is, her own father would bad-mouth her so publically. What a piece of sh*t. Between him and her cold, indifferent b*tch of a mother, no wonder she turned out the way she did. Linda Carroll is suppose to be a f**kin' therapist for crissakes, but when the going got tough she shipped her daughter off to become someone elses problem. I detest her.

Don't get me wrong; Courtney is an ADULT and responsible for her own actions but her f**ked up upbringing didn't help her self image much. I blame her mother mostly; she fought for custody, cut Hank out of Courtneys life, then rejected her and sent her away. Real nice. Even now she won't have anything to do with her daughter. Maybe if she'd been a bit more loving and a lot less selfish Courtney would have turned out very different. And as for Hank, he's an ass. Any father who publically denounces his daughter as a murderess, whether it's true or not, is a piece of sh*t in my book.

I'm on a roll...I better stop now. Maybe more nyquil....naw. I'll just have some ginger root and go to bed.

Andrea, thanks for the ginger root recipe. It works! ;D

[Andrea]

You guys haven't seen it?!

As DollyAlys says it doesn't answer any questions but then it wasn't intended to. It doesn't give any credibility to the murder theory as is seriously flawed on the Heroin issue. But it's worth seeing for these reasons:-
-Footage of an interview with Kurt shortly before he died, looking healthy and radiant and sounding very optimistic about his future.
- Interview with Traci Mirander (Kurt's former girlfriend) describing what Kurt was like to live with, and his sardonic humor (in contrast to the depressing picture that is depicted in Heavier than Heaven).
- Interview with Kurt's friend Alice Wheeler on how after Kurt died, Courtney sent a representative to intimidate Kurt's friends to sign a silencing order.
- The nanny interview (although frankly she could have been anybody).

More than anything it's a document of the filmmaker's frustration at trying to make a film about Cobain and finding that Courtney Love is trying to get the project shut down. It's a real mixed ride of emotions: comical, tragic, brave, sad, ridiculous, at at times very frightening.

You can get bargain basement copies on Ebay, if Courtney isn't buying them all up ;D...
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6360882719&rd=1

[Shadow]

What is rong with you people? Courtney Love helped kill Kurt Cobain are you people blind? you want proof? go to cobaincase.com, all the proof you need is there open your eyes people. and Kurt didnt kill himself get your facts straight!

[xandxshexburnsx]

i like nirvana as much as the next guy..unless they're completely obsessed and believes that kurt cobain is still alive and talks to them in his or her sleep.

but if kurt cobain did not like the attention why bother
could have spent his days doing summin else and song writing at home....cus to become a celebrity u would have to show off ur work and that means u want the attention..

and u cant become that big of a celebraty without putting any effort in...if he didnt want the attention why do it....even if say he wanted to show his music to the world that is still getting attention!

sorry if that didnt make sense im tired

[kurdtrules]

has anyone on this forum heard both sides of the story? after readin heavier than heaven i do NOT think courtney had anythin to do with kurts death...it was definately suicide! courtney tried to stop him takin drugs and did everything within her power to help him, and even saved his life several times. losing her husband must have been bad enough but being suspected of murdering him must have absolutely destroyed her...so before you go slagging her off read the true story!

[kurtrules]

Guest-xandxshexburnsx said:

i like nirvana as much as the next guy..unless they're completely obsessed and believes that kurt cobain is still alive and talks to them in his or her sleep.

but if kurt cobain did not like the attention why bother
could have spent his days doing summin else and song writing at home....cus to become a celebrity u would have to show off ur work and that means u want the attention..

and u cant become that big of a celebraty without putting any effort in...if he didnt want the attention why do it....even if say he wanted to show his music to the world that is still getting attention!

you cant just say that, kurt sought praise from his music as it was the only thing he felt good at. he lived for playing in his band and it was the one thing he loved, this gave him the drive to suceed, then he found out he didnt have what it needed, and he was just too sensitive and couldnt cope with it.

[Andrea]

Kurtrules,

Heavier Than Heaven was a Courtney Love assisted book which mean that she would have had the power to include whatever information on Kurt that she wanted including portraying him as a depressive suicidal. I don't think that you should read it as an accurate depiction of what Kurt was really like, or of events that may never have happened. I have read that friends and family of Kurt refute a lot of the information that is in that book and say that he wasn't a suicidal person.

To give you some idea of how these books get written I have included an interview with Poppy Z Brite who wrote the book; Courtney Love, The Real Story.

Poppyzbrite.com - BIOGRAPHY

PZB: Around that same time, rock diva Courtney Love contacted me and asked me to write her biography. Yes, although she made clear from the beginning that she would not officially authorize the book, it was Courtney's idea. She'd read and liked Lost Souls, and she wanted a version of her story written to counter all the negative biographies that were supposedly being written. (Only one of these, the hatchet job Queen of Noise, has yet seen publication. An editor at the house that published it reportedly said of my manuscript, "It's responsible journalism, and that's not what we're looking for.") She would give me access to journals, letters, photographs, and other material I could never have obtained without her; IN RETURN, SHE WOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT DID AND DIDN'T GO IN THE BOOK. I don't consider the biography part of my real body of work, but it's a fairly juicy and readable piece of pop culture flotsam that financed a lot of travel, short story writing, and animal care. Courtney Love: The Real Story was published by Simon & Schuster (US) and Orion (UK) in 1996.

Poppyzbrite.com – Q&A

-- After you wrote the biography of Courtney Love, I read that she cut you out of her "buddy" list for who knows what reason. Has she inspired you in any way toward future stories and did the two of you ever return to speaking terms?

PZB: I wouldn't say Courtney and I were ever buddies per se, so I never felt that I was "cut out" of anything. After I finished and sold the biography, she stopped contacting me on the advice of her new managers. This made me lose some respect for her, since she'd always claimed to be so free-thinking and punk rock, but frankly it was kind of a relief - Courtney can be a very stressful person to have in your life. No, she hasn't inspired me to write any other stories, since everything I found interesting about her went into the biography.

CHIZINE INTERVIEW SERIES:
Poppy Z. Brite

Q: You must be one of the few genre fiction writers to have written a biography of someone who is not a fellow genre writer (Courtney Love). How different was the experience of writing a biography? Would you do it again?

PZB: I doubt it. It was just a lucrative opportunity that came along at the right time (i.e., when I didn't have much else going on), and while Courtney herself was a real pain in the ass to work with, the actual writing was easy to the point of being dull. It gave me a few years of complete financial freedom, during which I travelled a lot and wrote a lot of short stories, but I'm currently too involved with my own fiction to feel much interest in taking on any other projects.

To understand Kurt it is probably best to read interviews that he made during his lifetime, rather than books published posthumously.