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Post by Alistair on Apr 6, 2005 6:00:17 GMT -5
Pro-Courtney my arse!
Courtney Love is rubbish! Get into some real music mate and stop being such a sad git.
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Post by TurbanToe on Apr 19, 2005 15:10:47 GMT -5
Kirstin's mother talked to us today about the dangers of drugs in our school today, but she didn't really talk about the specifics of her daughters death because she was getting too emotional. All she really said was that here daughter had been off drugs for awhile and she was going to move back to Minnesota to get away from the drugs, drug dealers, and I would guess Courtney Love. Also she said that her son was there to help her move.
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Post by not you on Nov 18, 2005 20:01:11 GMT -5
I was just surfing the web and I started reading your site......the facts are pretty suggestive that Courtney killed Kurt (I've read, "who killed Kurt Cobain-the mysterious death of an icon")....but why? Courtney could be taking the money he would be making now if he were still alive... that would be alot more money then off of royalties.........but, would Nirvana be as well known if Kurt hadn't died mysteriously? But.....Courtney's not all bad. I like her music.
hmmmm...this is also cool because I'm the only person posting since 2004
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Post by not you on Nov 18, 2005 20:02:01 GMT -5
I was just surfing the web and I started reading your site......the facts are pretty suggestive that Courtney killed Kurt (I've read, "who killed Kurt Cobain-the mysterious death of an icon")....but why? Courtney could be taking the money he would be making now if he were still alive... that would be alot more money then off of royalties.........but, would Nirvana be as well known if Kurt hadn't died mysteriously? But.....Courtney's not all bad. I like her music.
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Post by a on Dec 19, 2005 21:17:48 GMT -5
bump
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Post by doll love on Dec 28, 2005 17:38:13 GMT -5
hey just curious what you guys thought happened to her because i somehow think it was linked to courtney. i read about it in some books and it sounds suspicious. she was leaving Hole and went to move some stuff out of her apartment and ended up dead in her bathtub from a heroin overdose when she was clean from drugs for a year. by the way i somehow see a comparison with kurt's death. wasn't he on heroin also? that must be courtney's drug of choice. it's just strange and sad because kristen seemed very nice and was trying to escape courtney but ended dead instead. well just wondering what you guys think because i believe kurt was murdered and was linked to courtney but i also think courtney had something to do with kristen's death and we can't forget her too. kurt and her were good friends too. are you f**king kidding me?!
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Post by Henry Stauf on Nov 25, 2009 16:13:33 GMT -5
I'm Canadian, but every time I'm through Buffalo I make time to stop at Kristen's grave. It's very eerie.
It is beyond a shadow of a doubt that Kristen's death was NOT an accident. As far as Courtney's involvement, she is a pawn herself in a higher level game. Make no mistake. The elite give us heroes and take them away.
Cut through the cloudiness and convolution. Look past the "super celebrity", powerful lawyers, wealth, and get down to Root Cause Analysis.
RCA tells us: 2 people disrupted the source and flow of income to Courtney and her camp. Those same 2 people are both found dead under the same suspicious circumstances within weeks of each other. End of story.
Digging deeper and uncovering what really happened here is an impossible task. The bottomline is that no one cares about 2 dead drug abusing unsavory characters 15 years after the fact. However, I have made some interesting observations.
I have noticed that over the last year Kristen Pfaff's wikipedia article has been routinely edited to remove any reference to foul play or wrong doing in her death. Her brother Jason Pfaff also edited the article at one point inserting a rebuttal to authors Wallace & Halperin, stating they showed up to interview members of the Pfaff family claiming to be making a documentary on music (when they were actually collecting information for WKKC and Love & Death.) It seemed like a legal cover-your-ass tactic (as it could be assumed family or someone close to maintain the article.) The intersting thing to note is that he did not remove the following from the article: "This was the same modus operandi discovered at the Kurt Cobain crime scene. Sometime overnight, Pfaff had died "accidentally" from a heroin overdose."
Kurt murder and conspiracy theories are tired and stereotyped. It also nearly completely overshadows Kristen and her story (most fans don't even know the name or who she is.)
I believe Kristen to be the key element to the entire scenario. She also deserves justice.
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Post by LTJ on Dec 18, 2009 5:36:32 GMT -5
Amanda wrote: "...less than 2 months after kurts death, courtney was already dating..."
Two months? Private Investigator Tom Grant reports speaking to Courtney on the phone just 3 weeks after Kurt died, and on that telephone call Courtney actually "brags" that she is currently sleeping with Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins at a hotel in Arizona. So just 3 weeks have passed and parasite-Courtney is already attaching to a new songwriting host/victim!
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Post by LTJ on Dec 18, 2009 6:21:00 GMT -5
'not you' wrote: "facts are pretty suggestive that Courtney killed Kurt ......but why? Courtney could be taking the money he would be making now if he were still alive..."
No, not if Kurt divorced her and removed her from his will (and Kurt had made moves in both directions just before his death). Also, there was pre-nuptial agreement limiting Courtney's "slice of the pie", in case of a divorce. And we know that Courtney asked her lawyer about ways to void this pre-nuptial agreement - and also about finding really mean divorce lawyer?
And there were other deaths: El Duce (Eldon Hoke) the LA pervert/rocker who claims that Courtney offered him $50,000 to whack Kurt in Dec 1993. And, El Duce not only had a witness to Courtney's visit, he also took a lie-detector test on his $50K claim, administered by a highly respected expert in the field, AND he passed with "flying colors". Later, just 8 days after El Duce was interviewed on camera for the film "Kurt and Courtney", he is found dead on railroad tracks near his home. He had been seen earlier that evening in the company of a "new friend" who none of his close friends had ever seen before - or since.
And there was a Seattle Police detective who had dealt with Courtney on filing her reports to Police on Kurt's whereabouts. I don't recall the name or any further details, but this detective also died a couple of months after Kurt, and at a fairly early age.
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Post by nazzlow on Dec 18, 2009 19:01:42 GMT -5
I was friends with Kristen, and she indicated that Courtney HEAVILY pressured her to use heroin, and she was indeed clean at the time of her death. I think a double-homicide investigation would be in order
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Post by Henry Stauf on Jan 26, 2010 1:30:17 GMT -5
I was friends with Kristen, and she indicated that Courtney HEAVILY pressured her to use heroin, and she was indeed clean at the time of her death. I think a double-homicide investigation would be in order nazzlow, can you contact me off thread? countless.formulas@gmail.com
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Post by Le9acyMuse on Mar 2, 2010 4:41:57 GMT -5
I can't stand the way in which nothing is being done by law enforcers. I've tried to maintain a form of appreciation for Courtney through her music, but reading the additional information you guys have presented, I'm unable to leak out anything positive about her. She could be the best modern performer of our age and still be a wretch in my eyes now. Love allowed herself to be possessed by evil and led herself to aid in causing harm to others. Justice will strike her when she least expects it.
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Post by Jes on Apr 5, 2010 0:22:04 GMT -5
If anyone happens to read this post again I can tell you right now not to trust the Seattle police's judgement. I live in this area. In 1994 there were hardly (if any) murders in the area, even still the violent crime rate is low. (And don't forget this cities population had gone up a lot since then and still not bad crime for a city). Even now (and this just started) the couple murders there have been are these 15-16 year old kids that try to act like they're in a rap video and think they're in some gang, and even still they barely figure out these blatently obvious cases (even after the kid brags about it for days). The seattle pd is STILL extremely inexperienced, and pathetically horrible at investigating any type of murder or suspicious situation. And remember this crap just started, so imagine how BAD they were back in 1994. I'm not saying this as an excuse for them, I'm just saying I've seen this pd in action and the fact that they could screw a case up that bad (even nowdays) wouldn't surprise me at all. And they will never re-open these cases, their ego is too big and they would never take the chance in having to admit they were wrong. I've never seen or heard of any pd ruling a case a suicide and closing the case before they even finish examining evidence. It barely took them what an hour for kurt. And hasn't it been proven that courtney was old buddies with the medical examiner (I think he even admitted it) at least in kurts case- who knows maybe he did kristens autopsy too.
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Post by Jason Pfaff on Apr 6, 2010 14:38:32 GMT -5
I am looking for people who knew Kristen for interviews for my documentary about my sister- Please respond to jasonpfaff23@yahoo.com Thanks
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Post by jl on Jul 21, 2010 15:29:35 GMT -5
This is similar to the scene of the crime at Kurt’s house. Kristen was genuinely upset over Kurt’s death and she seemed to be scared about something. She was desperate to get away from Courtney. So was Kurt, he had enough of being belittled, enough of having to censor his words and actions, enough of listening to Courtney going on about designers and mansions and luxury cars and money money money. Kurt wanted to get some quality back in his life, he was ready to ditch Courtney. Both of them died before they got the chance. Was thr something going on between Kurt and Kristen?…did Courtney find out?... could this be part of the reason he was leaving her? I just find it strange tht the both ended up dead in the same manner only a few months apart. "She’s a f**king talented musician, she’s also a beautiful soul. I think she’s so beautiful, but if I ever told her that, and Courtney found out, it would be hell." - Kurt talking about Kristen to Dylan Carlson You f**k my guitar player, constantly make eyes at my husband and now you’re telling me how to sing. Just don’t f**k with me because you’ll regret it forever." - Courtney to Kristen All info found at www.justiceforkurt.com
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