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Post by heartshapedboxx on Oct 27, 2004 18:47:57 GMT -5
Apparntley CL suffers from a rare disease known as 'NN.'
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Danielle Loves Kurt
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Oct 28, 2004 13:59:43 GMT -5
Oh that's nothing she recently told Spin magazine she's having 'unspecified gyno issues'. f**k! can she keep anything secret?
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Post by HippieChild on Oct 28, 2004 15:24:53 GMT -5
I think Courtney is autistic. Autism varies in different degrees; theres Aspergers, which is mildly autistic and then there's severe autism in which a child can be completely withdrawn into themselves. I'm no doctor but I'd say Courtney probably has Aspergers; she's not rational at times, seems to withdraw into her own world, and has problems comprehending the severity of her words and actions. My oldest daughter, Autumn, may be autistic. We're getting a neurological workup done on her in April to determine what the problem is and if we can do anything to help her; she has alot of symptoms of Aspergers; she's developmentally delayed, operating at an age younger than five, and often "freezes" and withdraws into her own world. Her speech and comprehension are below age appropriate level and it was only two years ago that she was finally able to put sentences together. Before that she would try to talk, get frustrated, and give way to screaming fits that lasted for hours while Jim and I frantically tried to figure out what was wrong. Thankfully we got her into the Head Start Program which worked miracles with her and Jim and I work with her too. All was fine for a while but two weeks ago my friend Jackie and I took the girls shopping and Autumn stepped off the curb into the parking lot and suddenly "froze." Jackie and I were a bit away from her and we screamed at her but she didn't hear us. Thank God Jackie was able to sprint to the parking lot and grab her before an oncoming car hit her! When Jackie pulled her back she just stared at us, uncomprehending. I had asked Head Start about the possibility of autism 2 years ago but was told it was already ruled out because of the progress she was making, but after that incident I called the LADDERS program and made an appointment for a full neurological workup, the earliest appointment available April 26, 2005. Today Jim and I met with her teachers at kindergarten and arranged for her to have a full day instead of half, with OT and PT twice a week. We're worried sick. Autumn, unlike Courtney, is very loved by us, no matter what. I don't care if she's autistic or delayed she is the love of my life and I couldn't love her more, no matter what. She knows she's loved and is very responsive to that; She is so affectionate, hugging us, kissing us, and her demeanor is so sweet she pulls the heart strings of everyone who meets her, especially her teachers. She loves to draw, is reading at a first grade level, and loves dressing up as "Princess Autumn" whenever she can. I feel bad for Courtney because she was dumped on one relative after another which couldn't have helped her condition any and I seriously doubt she was given any love and affection by either parent or any of her relatives. We dote on our daughter and as a result she is the sweetest, most loving child in the world. I seriously doubt Courtney ever felt loved or wanted and I blame her parents for that. Of course Courtney is 40 now and responsible for her own actions but her early years couldn't have helped any. If she had been wanted and loved, she may have turned out very differently. At this time, Jim and I are awaiting all the medical records from Autumn's birth; I strongly suspect the reason for her delays is due to the difficult birth both she and I endured; a birth that almost cost me my life. For over 6 hours while I pushed and pushed her head remained pressed on my pelvic bone, which is what I think did the damage and she sustained head trauma when they tried unsuccessfully to "vacuum" her out. I had a fourth degree episiotomy in order for them to get her out and two days after my release went into heart failure do to fluid buildup and was re-admitted to a local hospital ( I didn't trust Yale at that point) and stayed there for an additional two days while my parents took care of the baby. It was hell. I don't care about me, but if those bastards damaged my baby, they are going to pay dearly. She was born at Yale hospital because we thought we were getting the best; instead, despite the warning signs of hypertension and toxemia, I was placed in the hands of residents who bungled everything badly and literally tore me to shreds to deliver my child. It's pay back time. I'd be interested in knowing Courtney's history as far as birth, early childhood etc. I'd bet a cyberK that she's alot like Autumn in that respect. Too bad her parents are such s-hits that they never gave her a chance. Especially her father. I don't blame Courtney for hating him. I have no respect for the man either. Maybe Courtney did kill Kurt but for him to announce it publically and go against his own flesh and blood is despicable. May he rot in hell, the selfish bastard.
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Post by Andrea on Oct 28, 2004 20:34:59 GMT -5
Hippiechild, I was very touched by what you wrote. I hope that Autumn turns out fine. Autumn, by the way is such a lovely name.
I don't know why I'm defending Hank Harrison. Maybe it's because I'm very close to my father who is very supportive of my life. I think you've read my other contribution about Hank Harrison. He claims that he did try and get custody of Courtney Love. Whatever damage was done, was done by Courtney's mother and her neglect of her child. I understand by the testimonies that when Courtney was a teenager she returned to live with her father but by that time she was already a delinquent and pursuing a life of Heroin and teenage wh0ring... (20 years later and not much changed until recently) Hank Harrison's partner, Triona Watson has also verified this. Their public dispute is very distasteful and for some strange reason Hank Harrison is blamed and not Courtney's mother.
I do think that it is sometimes too easy to blame parents for the result of their offsprings actions. Lots of people had rough childhoods but don't grow up displaying criminal tendencies. I'm definately with you on the issue of Courtney displaying mental health problems - just reading her kitty radio postings convinced me of that. Sticky keyboard, touch typing, my a$$! It's obvious that there is something seriously wrong with her. I think she shows all the signs of being a sociopath with criminal tendencies - her obvious lack of remorse, her perception of herself as victim when not being the aggressor, her inabilities to sustain relationships, her monumental egocentricness and disregard for others, her lack of any sense of sexual morality, deviancy, - a lot of the things you'll find in any good criminal psychology textbook.
I'm sorry, but I don't feel pity for her. She could have turned her life around at any point. She's either a very dumb broad or her problems stem from her attitude. I feel that the latter is perhaps more probable. Yeah, she all cleaned up now... until the law turns the heat off and then she'll go and assault somebody else. I'd be very surprised if she didn't. How many chances does Courtney Love need to be given?
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Post by HippieChild on Oct 29, 2004 11:37:25 GMT -5
Thank you Bree and Andrea. You two are so sweet. Fortunately, as I said, Autumn is doing fine; One one hand she has many delays, but on the other hand she's brilliant artistically and her school work is above age appropriate. I remember reading somewhere that many autistic children are brilliant in areas of art and science; something to do with the part of their brains that work double time to compensate for the damaged part, I'm not sure. BTW Andrea, I named her Autumn because I found out I was pregnant on a beautiful fall day. The name suits her too. I understand what your saying, Andrea, regarding Hank Harrison and agree with it. My beef with him is his lack of support for his own daughter. I know if I my daughter was accused of such a heinous crime I would stand by her, not throw her to the wolves. I would definately try to convince her to come clean and turn herself in, but I would never publically revile her the way he does. As for Linda Harrison, she's a f**kin' therapist! How could someone so learned be such a lousy mother? She should have known better. She fought for custody of her daughter, then abandoned her. WTF? If she didn't want her, why fight for her? It would appear as though Linda used her daughter as a weapon to hurt Hank and once she accomplished that, just dumped her. She's won such acclaim for persuading Carol Ann Powers to turn herself in, but turned her back on her daughter? My God, she gave birth to her! How can she be so cold? Piece of s-hit, is what comes to mind. You are absolutely correct; alot of people have rough childhoods but that doesn't excuse their behavior as adults. Once we reach a certain age, no matter who didn't love you, or who abused you, YOU are responsible. My generation is the by-product of baby-boomers from WW2, Korea and VietNam and I've dubbed them the "f**ked-up generation." Alot of damage was done to alot of children, myself included, and it's up to us to set things right and make sure our children are better understood and better loved. I've certainly tried to do better than my parents. I was never held, loved or even praised as a child and as a result I always make sure my children know they are loved, they are beautiful, they are smart, etc. Courtney should know that but for some reason it escapes her. She blames her problems on everyone else, including Hank. She claimed Hank gave her acid when she was three but Hank took 2 lie detector tests that proved he didn't do that. She loves to play the victim because that way she won't be held accountable, and that's wrong. Charles Manson had a lousy childhood; so that makes what he did alright? NO. It just makes him a murderer. And if Courtney murdered Kurt and blames it on her parents and her enviroment, she's totally wrong. The only one she should blame is the person in the mirror. Yes it is easy to blame the parents because they set the foundation of their childrens lives but after a period of time, that excuse just doesn't wash. Her parents didn't make her take drugs, her parents didn't make her strip, turn tricks, throw that mic stand at the audience, break Jim Barbers windows, or assault her former assistant. She did. But where is her mom now? Why isnt' she standing by her daughter, publically lending her support? This widely acclaimed therapist is nowhere to be found when her own daughter needs her and that makes her a piece of s-hit in my book. Courtney is alone because her actions led to her ostracism, but any good mother would stand by her baby and offer unconditional support. A mother is suppose to offer unconditional love, no matter what the situation. Why wasn't she in court with Courtney supporting her? Where was she when Courtney was going through the drug treatment program? Where is she now, talking another fugative into turning herself in, or standing by her daughter who obviously needs her quite badly. What's going to happen to Frances? I can only hope that Courtney at least did something right and Frances knows that mommy loves her and will fight for her, no matter what. A mothers love can make all the difference in the world and I truly hope Courtney realizes that and doesn't screw it up, or else Frances will be lost to her forever and she will have NOBODY. Whew, that being said, I have to go now and take a bucket off of Kara's head. Don't ask me why she's wearing it. I have no idea. She just likes to wear strange things. I think she gets it from her dad's side of the family. ;D
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Post by Andrea on Oct 29, 2004 12:42:52 GMT -5
I think that Courtney Love is very much alone because of all the people that she has used and abused over the years. It's a testimony of how she has chosen to live her life and of her personality. Only the people on her payroll seem to be the ones standing by her. This is very sad for any public figure.
Her family situation seems to be one very much of her own creation, like many of her problems. I really do think that the main problem seems to lie with Courtney's attitude and her relentless megalomania and insatiable need for publicity at any cost. I'm sure that Hank Harrison would love to be there for Courtney and his grand daughter, if given the opportunity.
While there has been much press from Love about touring and making records in prison she's said little about straightening out her life in order to gain custody of her child. I've come to believe that in the world of Courtney Love - 'Courtney Love' comes before anything and is her main priority, even before Frances Bean enters the picture. I think that Frances is a lot better of with Love's stepfather, Frank Rodriguez, a retired schoolteacher, than she could ever be with her natural mother. Regardless of her crocodile tears in interviews, I just don't think that Love could provide the type of environment and stability that a growing child needs. The way she has lived her life depicts that - she may state in an interview that everything she does is for Frances but then you read about her getting her tits out, or assaulting somebody. What she says and her behavior are not consistent.
I find it very hard to have any sympathy for her perception of herself as a victim. I see this as another means of twisting reality to suit her advantage - however heinous the crime, Courtney will be able to twist it so that she looks good even if it is a blatant distortion of the reality. Which musician said that Love was obsessed with living out her life in the media and only cared about how she was perceived?
I think that I read someplace that a lot of the Cobain family were disappointed at the way that Courtney was trying to brainwash Frances against them. I guess she uses the same technique of lies and revisionist history that she adopts with her fans. I feel that Frances when she comes of age will turn against her (for numerous reasons ) especially when she's free to start exploring and discovering who her father was, and listening to others opinions and versions of events. And as we all know that Courtney Love isn't regarded as a truthful source, so who knows what she could had told Frances over the years - probably some absurd fairytale glamourization of events that has nothing to do with the public record.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Oct 31, 2004 10:11:22 GMT -5
Autumn seems like a dear and her she is so cute. I hope things work out for the best Hippie.
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Post by HippieChild on Nov 6, 2004 17:06:08 GMT -5
More ramblings from Kitty Radio. That place is an abundance of information. She post there rather frequently. I'm not sure what she's saying in this post; I'm not even sure if it was posted today or not, but here it is:
CUstody Of my child is mine!alwayshasbeen
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NOONE "took:" custody of my child away from me- False allegations were made about crazy nuts for reasons so beyond comprehension and over the line if it does turn into a real war ( not her Custody Thats not at stake)
It will be a msassacre of epic proportions- these f**kers were so dumb A. they forgot to SHRED THE PAPERS B. The first time the IRS has come Out with Fantastic PR as For the PEople Even The Dumb Rock/Black Athlete-Rapper and Porno people C. IT WILL BRING BACK OLD SCHOOL MS MAGAZINE FEMIINISM ON A LEVEL I DONT EVEN WANT TO DEAL WITH- ANDREA DWORKIN MAY BECOME PRESIDENT IT IS SO OFFENSIVE.
anyone remmeber that LLC dissolution case- oh oh - when Krist and Dave Asked thnat i take a psychiatric test ( I actually have by the way- mmpi2)
does anyone recall that although there was no Public Outcry it there would have been Gloria ( Allred) by my side in a minute- and women singing :Frances Farmer willl have her Revenge on seattle" ont he court hoyse steps?
This would be CRAZED in the end? Frances and I woyuld be as we are now. wary and sad.
Three Lawyers two at least CPA s and oh myy a Banker at Least in Jail
wich ex assitant had an amex corp card and spent 980,....OOOO DOLLARS/ ih hih like that and my new york lawyers are sodammmed good and my dc ones i get to go one tour and we gfet to live
Could someone post this nytymes piece?
Doesw ANyone remember a NYtimes Sunday Cover Story called "ONe Womans Nighmare"
Its aboit a single mom attorney and the nanny and y thynk the Husbands Mom start photographing like...pot ( wich did nt she admit she smoked soemtimes and fiuck off) and sex sheets and maybe her thyng was a little blow a , a few men IM nNOT judging but Im s nun- Frances has to like you,.
I do wish she'd work on her typing; it's very difficult to decipher what she's saying, or trying to say.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Nov 7, 2004 13:22:33 GMT -5
More ramblings from Kitty Radio. That place is an abundance of information. She post there rather frequently. I'm not sure what she's saying in this post; I'm not even sure if it was posted today or not, but here it is: CUstody Of my child is mine!alwayshasbeen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOONE "took:" custody of my child away from me If Courtney still has custody of Frances then why does she live with Wendy O'Connor at the moment? Care to explain Mommy Dearest.
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