Cultural importance.

[PigWomanCourtney]

[glow=red,2,300]All cultural difference and personal opinions aside, we can all agree Danielle is a stupid, uselss c-u-n-t that doesn't know what the f-ck she's talking about. Elvis a joke?
You stupid little Nirvana worshipping wh0re. Now go lick Courtney's beef curtain dumb@ss
PWC[/glow]

[lovestinksyeahyeah]

danielle you make me very angry and i would say something but i think hippiechild and a bit of what pigwoman said sums up what i was thinking.

[itslikeatradeoff]

Guest-Danielle said:

I don't really care if I'm insulting Americans, those people overwelmingly support bombing the hell out of innocent people and don't throw that nationalistic nuts on me.

Piggie and Hippie basically summed it up but just for closure: f**k YOU YA IGNORANT CU*NT.YOU LIVE IN AUSTRALIA YOU HEAR ABOUT US AMERICANS IN THE NEWS/NEWSPAPER/ECT WHICH IS NOT VALID ENOUGH FOR YOU TO MAKE SUCH AN OPINION FROM!!IVE BEEN BEING KIND TO YOU FOR A WHILE CAUSE YOU BACKED UP YOUR INFORMATION.WELL YOURE INFORMATION IS BULLOCKS YOU GULLIBLE PIECE OF SH*IT!YOURE CONSTANTLY STANDING UP FOR COURTNEY YET SWEAR YOU'RE NEUTRAL COURTNEY.I BET YOURE JUST TRYING TO GO FOR THAT IMAGE DIRTGIRL HAS FOR HERSELF.YOU ARE CONSTANTLY DISMISSING THE TOLERANCE THEORY.CONSTANTLY TURNING A BLIND EYE TO THE FACTS.YET YOU FAIL TO GIVE US ONE CASE JUST ONE CASE IN WHICH SOMEONE DID WHAT KURT DID WITH THAT MUCH HEROIN IN HIS SYSTEM.MIGHT I ADD THAT THE HEROIN IN HIS SYSTEM WAS 70 TIMES THE LETHAL DOSE FOR A CLEAN PERSON WHILE IT IS 3 TIMES THE LETHAL DOSE FOR A HARD CORE HEROIN ADDICT WHICH KURT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN.I DONT KNOW WHY I EVEN BOTHER EXAPLAIN YOURE JUST GONNA TURN THE CHEEK AND KEEP ON SAYING COURTNEY IS PURE COURTNEY IS INNOCENCE COURTNEY IS HUMAN COURTNEY...WELL THAT COVERS IT.ANOTHER THING YOU DO IS PUT DOWN BUSH.LISTEN I DONT LIKE THE GUY NO MORE THAN I LIKE KERRY.MY MOTTO FOR THE ELECTION WAS 'WHOEVER WINS WE LOSE', BUT IM NOT GOING TO PUT DOWN THE PRESIDENT OF MY COUNTRY THAT IS EXTREMELY UNETHICAL.WHY DO YOU EVEN BOTHER WITH BUSH.HE'S AN AMERICAN.HE LIVES IN AMERICA. HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF AMERICA. YET YOU GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO PUT THIS GUY DOWN.YOU LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD!! I DONT RECALL READING OF BUSH SENDING TROOPS INTO AUSTRALIA. I DONT RECALL READING AUSTRALIA WAS RECENTLY BOMBED BY AMERICA.SO WHY CARE?WHY CARE?WHY DO YOU CARE?DONT WASTE YOURE TIME ON THE GUY.IF YOU WANT TO PUT DOWN SOMEONE THEN PUT DOWN SOMEONE IN YOUR GOVERNMENT NOT MINE! CRAZY SON OF A BI*TCH!

[itslikeatradeoff]

Well I sure went off on a tangen there....

[HippieChild]

Whoa!!!!! Go Tradeoff!!!!! ;D

See what happens when you poke at the american monster, Danielle? Henceforth, shut your godd-amn mouth unless you know what the hell your talking about

BTW, Elvis says f*uck you.

[Danielle Loves Kurt]

Obviously the sense of nationalist pride exist far more in America than it does here. Hippiechild, you can say what ever you want about John Howard. Come up with the worst name you can think of and I'll agree with it. I hate the man. His a right wing little nuts. I didn't vote for him. I voted for Mark Latham. And I don't have sense I can't insult the man. His running my life and right now his ruining the working classes. I have all the right in the world to say how much I hate him and how I want him gone.

The only reason I have said what I said is because Hippiechild decided to say I offended all Americans. I think that's bigger genaralisation than me saying most American agree with the war on Iraq, which regardless of your opinions is true via statistics.

Obviously I've leapted right into the fire because America at this point in of it's development can't understand insults. I do however, divorce the people from the actions of the government but it's hard to do that when there has just been an election and Bush is still in power.

Contrary to what you might believe Australia didn't vote on ideas of national security like America. I don't recall it being mentioned more than 3 times. Australia voted on issues like interest rates and John Howard won the election because the spin campaign against Labor and it's run of bad economics wouldn't let Latham be judged for the man he is. Regardless, of anything I'm waiting patiently for June to arrive and Howard gets control of the Senate. Which is when people like me will reap the whirlwind.

You all must hate Michael Moore for his insults against Georgie baby.

[Danielle Loves Kurt]

.WHY DO YOU EVEN BOTHER WITH BUSH.HE'S AN AMERICAN.HE LIVES IN AMERICA. HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF AMERICA. YET YOU GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO PUT THIS GUY DOWN.YOU LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD!! I DONT RECALL READING OF BUSH SENDING TROOPS INTO AUSTRALIA. I DONT RECALL READING AUSTRALIA WAS RECENTLY BOMBED BY AMERICA.SO WHY CARE?WHY CARE?WHY DO YOU CARE?DONT WASTE YOURE TIME ON THE GUY.IF YOU WANT TO PUT DOWN SOMEONE THEN PUT DOWN SOMEONE IN YOUR GOVERNMENT NOT MINE! CRAZY SON OF A BI*TCH![/size][/quote]
Because your previous elections had more barring on where my country was going than Australia's own elections and Australia isn't the only ones.
With respect Trade off you need to realizse that currently Australia has troops in Iraq because of American politcs, also the free trade agreement, the saturation in Australia and every other country on the planet of American culture. Yes I'm sick of seeing McDonalds and I'm not going to apologise for that. Also EVERYTHING YOUR COUNTRY DOES HAS A DIRECT RETALIATION ON MINE. THIS IS BECAUSE AFTER WW2 AUSTRALIA CHANGED ITS' ALLIANCE FACTORS TO CONCENTRATE ON AMERICA MORE THAN BRITAIN. Trade of with those comments you are sincerly doubting what American politcs and culture are doing around the world. I don't hate Americans I just hate the American governemnt and the sad thing is WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR ELECTION WAS MORE IMPORTANT FOR Australia THAN MY OWN ELECTIONS. And we aren't the only ones Canada, Norway and to extent Britain are all like that. You are vastly underestimating your countrys infulence worldwide.

[HippieChild]

When you refer to Elvis as a "cultural joke because of his death" you are being presumptuous and smug. You don't live here and you don't know what we think of Elvis, his music or his death. He may be a joke to you but here he is anything but. Your whole post was smug, presumptuous and ignorant and showed your true colors.

As for Howard, I don't care what you think about him because it's not my country. We've got issues of our own to deal with and I can't be bothered. But you've repeatedly bashed George Bush to us and I'm sick of it. It's not your place and you are way out of line. In fact, your whole post is out of line because you have no foundation to build on. To say we think it's fine to bomb innocent people is the height of ignorance; it is never fine to bomb anybody, anytime or anywhere, but neither is it fine to let a dictator who tortures innocent people, including innocent women and children IS NOT FINE. Something had to be done. Unfortunately in the process a whole new can of worms was opened up and the muslim extremists got involved and it's a mess now but at least Iraq is now a free society who can make it's own decisions and voice opinions without fear of painful retaliation by those who run the country. That much is accomplished though there's a whole lot more to do. Whether or not I like George Bush is not the issue. He's still my president and if anyone bad-mouths him I will back him up. He's the commander-in-chief and as such he deserves my loyalty, if not my approval.

Educate yourself, Danielle. Your ignorance is showing. What you say in the privacy of your own home is your own business but when you say stupid things like this, don't be so surprised when it's thrown back in your smug little face.

[Danielle Loves Kurt]

HippieChild said:

When you refer to Elvis as a "cultural joke because of his death" you are being presumptuous and smug. You don't live here and you don't know what we think of Elvis, his music or his death. He may be a joke to you but here he is anything but. Your whole post was smug, presumptuous and ignorant and showed your true colors.

I find it hard to believe he isn't a joke culturally when you have impersonators marrying people in Las Vegas and pyschics going through his home.

As for Howard, I don't care what you think about him because it's not my country. We've got issues of our own to deal with and I can't be bothered. But you've repeatedly bashed George Bush to us and I'm sick of it. It's not your place and you are way out of line.

WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR ELCTIONS WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO AUTSTRLIA THAN WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR OWN. BESIDES WITH THAT LOGIC AMERICA CAN'T INSULT SADDAM HUSSEIN THAN BECAUSE HIS NOT APART OF AMERICAN POLITICS. THEREFORE I CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT HOW BAD STALIN WAS.

In fact, your whole post is out of line because you have no foundation to build on. To say we think it's fine to bomb innocent people is the height of ignorance; it is never fine to bomb anybody, anytime or anywhere, but neither is it fine to let a dictator who tortures innocent people, including innocent women and children IS NOT FINE. Something had to be done.

Historically you need to realsze that America put Saddam in power in Iraq in order to fight the Iranians. Remember the footage of Rumsfled giving Hussein anthrax? Not just that but the sanctions against Iraq which led to terrible poverty and horrible medical facilities were made by the UN a foundation that has America on the Security council.

Unfortunately in the process a whole new can of worms was opened up and the muslim extremists got involved and it's a mess now but at least Iraq is now a free society who can make it's own decisions and voice opinions without fear of painful retaliation by those who run the country.

I disagree, it's now being said that the person the American governemnt has backed to win the elections in Iraq actually walked into a jail a shot the prisoners. That's a despot.

That much is accomplished though there's a whole lot more to do. Whether or not I like George Bush is not the issue. He's still my president and if anyone bad-mouths him I will back him up. He's the commander-in-chief and as such he deserves my loyalty, if not my approval.

Sorry, I can't understand this logic. That's what Germans said when Adolf Hitler came to power and they let that go on. Your watching the people be loaded into the trains and you aren't doing anything about it. You must really hate people like Susan Sarandon and Michael Moore for what they're saying about Bush.

Educate yourself, Danielle. Your ignorance is showing. What you say in the privacy of your own home is your own business but when you say stupid things like this, don't be so surprised when it's thrown back in your smug little face.

That's ok you've neglected to know the above imformation. I'll tell you now you've elected another despot in Iraq. History repeats itself.

[HippieChild]

Danielle whines:

I find it hard to believe he isn't a joke culturally when you have impersonators marrying people in Las Vegas and pyschics going through his home.

The impersonators are called "schtick." Anyone in the entertainment business has schtick and many people make a living impersonating many celebrities such as Shirley MacClaine, Marilyn Monroe, Jack Nicholson the list continues. It's very common in Las Vegas as well as the rest of the U.S to have impersonators of all kinds in the entertainment industry. It's how many people make their living. Vegas is famous for weddings of all kinds and Elvis was very big in Vegas. Those "jokes" you refer to are actually a tribute to the king, not a mockery. As for the psychics going through his home, the death of anyone with notoriety is bound to attract a few nuts, not just in the case of Elvis but in other celebrity deaths as well. They don't represent america and they have NO influence on the memory of Elvis at all.

Danielle simpers:
WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR ELCTIONS WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO AUTSTRLIA THAN WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR OWN. BESIDES WITH THAT LOGIC AMERICA CAN'T INSULT SADDAM HUSSEIN THAN BECAUSE HIS NOT APART OF AMERICAN POLITICS. THEREFORE I CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT HOW BAD STALIN WAS.

Well guess what honey; it was a lose-lose situation. I didn't like either candidate and refused to vote for anyone. If Kerry had won, nothing would have changed. We'd still be at war. As far as America putting Saddam in power, yes that happened. Iran had kidnapped several hostages back in the early 80's and America was pissed. When Iraq went to war with Iran we happily backed them. However, Saddam became a dictator of the worst kind and his sons were even more horrible. He killed innocent people on the merest slight and excluded no one, not women, not children not ANYBODY. What we should have done was finish the job 14 years ago to avoid this but George Bush I decided to pull out too early, leaving a mess in the middle east. When things go progressively worse we finally had to step in and say "enough." To liken Bush to Stalin is ridiculous. I don't like this war at all but from a humanitarian standpoint something had to be done about Hussein and as much as I detest Bush, at least he had the balls to step in and do something about it. As for how our elections effect Australia, economically yes, Australia has strong ties with America. However, the rest is connected to England. You also conveniently forget that 60 years ago during WWII we saved your asses. What the hell do you think Pearl Harbor was about? In 1941 The japanese bombed the hell out of us in order to insure a way to Australia without any obsticles. It eventually backfired and in 1945 we finished the job by bombing Japan. Do I like that? Hell no! Too many innocents were hurt. But the japanese opened the door with Pearl Harbor, killing alot of innocent people as well and again, we saved Australias ass.

Danielle pronounces:

I disagree, it's now being said that the person the American governemnt has backed to win the elections in Iraq actually walked into a jail a shot the prisoners. That's a despot.[/quote]I've never heard that story but since it comes from you, who never gets her facts straight, I'll take it with a grain of salt. I have to question, if it is true, what were they in prison for? Did they commit heinous crimes on the same level as Hussein? Were they war criminals? What were the circumstances that lead up to this? I'd have to know why this was done before I pass judgement, if in fact it's true.

Danielle oh-so-self-righteously declares: Sorry, I can't understand this logic. That's what Germans said when Adolf Hitler came to power and they let that go on. Your watching the people be loaded into the trains and you aren't doing anything about it. You must really hate people like Susan Sarandon and Michael Moore for what they're saying about Bush.

Nobody is "being loaded onto the trains" you moron. Bush, while he's not my favorite person, is no Hitler. Hitler ordered the deaths of millions of jews because of anti-semetism and wanted to make Germany the worlds dominate power and it eventually led to his destruction. Bush's goal is to free Iraq from an insane dictator and make the country a free democrasy. His excuse of "weapons of mass destruction" was bulls-hit and it pissed me off, but at least we got the "rat in the hole" and his two evil spawn. If you don't understand why I get angry at you bad-mouthing my president, it's called LOYALTY, something you obviously don't understand. I didn't vote for the man. I don't like the man. But he's my president, like it or not and I will back him up because it's the right thing to do and that means I will defend him against a mealy-mouthed ignoramus from another country who has nothing better to do than spout ignorance and half-truths. As for Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon, I like Michael Moore and his in-your-face films. His Columbine film was incredible and his talent is endless. Susan Sarandon is one of my favorite actresses and will always continue to be so. The difference between them and you is they are more informed and have their facts straighter than you do and made a decision based on those facts.

That being said, I will not discuss this issue with you again. You've annoyed me for the last time and I have nothing further to say to you except GROW UP.

[lovestinksyeahyeah]

claps for hippiechild. ;D

[DirtGrrl]

Okay, Danielle, so here's how it is. I do agree with you about alot of things, but please don't go insulting George Bush. I might not be the biggest Bush fan in the world, but there is a sure way of insulting people and that way is to say something bad about their leaders/government, ect. I would definetely take it very personally if somebody started badmouthing my president, although I'm quite sure nobody has ever heard of the president of Iceland.

Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that in some of your opinions (the informed ones), I do support you, but I will take no part in insulting somebody's president.

Although, this does not change the fact that I like you, I think you are funny and you back your opinions up with information.. Most of the time.

[lovestinksyeahyeah]

dirtgrrl are you from iceland? that's awesome!

[ILATO]

FU*CK YOU Danielle Id just LOVE to tear you down some more but Im off to spend the holiday for familys and wont post for about a week.

[HippieChild]

Have a merry christmas, Tradeoff! Bring me back a blond boy-toy. ;D