Danielle Loves Kurt
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Nov 14, 2004 20:10:47 GMT -5
And your cruel, harsh, CLASSIST bastard who can't create one single arguement. Whose worse? I certainly think you are. I guess you don't care what I think either but that's ok because at least other people have arguements on this board. You just insult people for no good reason.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Nov 14, 2004 21:09:47 GMT -5
I don't think courtney hurt kurt. they say all this stuff but it's not goin anywhere so it doesn't have a base. if it did than courtney would be jail She did hurt him once and its a documented case. The juicer wasn't working right so she threw a cup of juice at Kurt. He got angry jumped on her, and choked her. The neighbors heard commotion and called the police. When they arrived he was covered in juice ect., ect. Do some research on her before stating an opinion. Shes not as godly as you take her to be.
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Post by doll parts on Nov 15, 2004 2:10:40 GMT -5
Sorry I was wroug. She did hurt him then but she didn't kill him. That si such a horrible thing to say.
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Post by PigWomanCourtney on Nov 15, 2004 5:27:21 GMT -5
And your cruel, harsh, CLASSIST bastard who can't create one single arguement. Whose worse? I certainly think you are. I guess you don't care what I think either but that's ok because at least other people have arguements on this board. You just insult people for no good reason. [glow=red,2,300]Another one that needs to slide under a lorry and taste her own blood. Why are there so many stupid people on this board?
Go suck Kurt's rotted off genitalia you thick as pig sh*t kangaroo f*cking Aussie b*tch. PWC[/glow]
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Post by HippieChild on Nov 15, 2004 10:59:31 GMT -5
dollparts wrote:
You need to read this, Dollparts. I posted it a few weeks ago but I can do it again. It's interesting.
Courtney Love and the Seattle cops Was Cobain murder investigation compromised by relationships?
By Matthew Richer © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com
Courtney Love is one of America's most controversial celebrities -- famous for her hard rock music, hard drug use and the many accusations of foul play that surround the alleged suicide of her late husband, Kurt Cobain, five years ago this month. But most people do not know about Courtney Love's long and special relationship with Seattle law enforcement; a relationship that, according to a WorldNetDaily investigation, compromised the investigation into her husband's death, and perhaps ruined any chance of ever knowing what really happened to Kurt Cobain.
The games of love
On May 2, 1993, Courtney Love dialed 911 after Kurt Cobain overdosed on heroin. The Seattle police and fire departments arrived at the Cobain residence and discovered that Cobain had "injected himself with $30-$40 worth of heroin." Curiously, the police report contains an entire paragraph that has been blacked out. Normally, certain incidental information such as names, addresses and phone numbers are redacted from reports to maintain privacy, but the paragraph in question describes Love's "attempt" to "save her husband's life." Tom Grant, Love's former private investigator, was successful in uncovering the redacted information.
The information in question describes how Love forcibly administered Buprenorphine, Valium and Tylenol laced with Codeine to "save her husband's life." This lethal combination of drugs surely aggravated Cobain's condition and could easily have killed him and yet the Seattle police did not investigate Courtney Love for possessing illegal drugs or for sthingy-feeding them to a man who had already overdosed. In fact, they deliberately concealed her criminal actions from the police report released to the public. Why the special treatment for Courtney Love?
On March 18, 1994, the Seattle PD responded to a 911 call at the Cobain residence. The official report recounts Love's claim that Cobain had locked himself in a room with a gun, and had threatened to kill himself, though Love's name is blacked out of the report, while Cobain's is intact. Once again, more special treatment for Courtney Love, though none for Kurt Cobain.
The March 18 report also describes how Cobain calmly cooperated with the investigators and insisted he was not going to hurt himself, but only locked himself in a room because he wanted to get away from his wife. Love then admitted to the police that she never actually saw Cobain with a gun and that he never said he was going to kill himself. Nevertheless, the report says that Courtney Love dialed 911, "for his safety... knowing he had access to guns."
On April 4, 1994, Courtney Love called the Seattle police early in the morning from Los Angeles to report Kurt Cobain as a missing person and yet for some reason Love falsely portrayed herself as Cobain's mother, Wendy O'Connor, who lives near Seattle. Why did Love feel the need to hide her identity, unless perhaps she was hiding her motives?
The police report says that "Mr. Cobain ran away from California facility and flew back to Seattle... bought a shotgun and may be suicidal. Det. Terry SPD/Narcotics has further info." This suggests that Cobain purchased a shotgun on that very day with the intention of killing himself, when in fact he acquired the gun before he admitted himself into drug rehabilitation on March 30. Also, Courtney Love told the police that Cobain had flown to Seattle, when she had told Tom Grant the day before that she had no idea where he might go.
More importantly, why does the 911 report cite narcotics Detective Antonio Terry as a source? Tom Grant says that Love considered Terry a good friend. If Love got angry and wanted one of her drug buddies arrested, she would call Terry and ask him to bust them. In the days prior to the discovery of Cobain's body, Love called Detective Terry from Tom Grant's cellular phone in Los Angeles. This information makes it difficult to deny a relationship between at least one Seattle policeman and Courtney Love. Moreover, it suggests that Detective Terry was willing to abet Love's machinations, even when she lied to the Seattle police by impersonating Cobain's mother.
In the aggregate, the police reports clearly illustrate how Courtney Love successfully manipulated the Seattle police. By the time the Seattle PD investigated his death on April 8, they were already convinced Cobain committed suicide. One Seattle policeman told Ian Halperin and Max Wallace, authors of "Who Killed Kurt Cobain?" that when Sergeant Donald Cameron ordered the homicide unit to investigate Cobain's death, he told them that the investigation was just "for show" and not to be too thorough. Apparently, they followed orders.
The Crime Scene
Officer Van Levandowski arrived at the crime scene first. In his report, Levandowski says that he photographed the crime scene using a Polaroid camera, while two other officers used 35mm cameras to do the same. Levandowski describes discovering the "suicide note ... apparently written by Cobain to his wife and daughter, explaining why he had killed himself", but Levandowski reached this conclusion prior to any actual investigation and only four and a half-hours after the body was discovered.
Levandowski also says that "the victim was AWOL from a drug treatment center in Los Angeles and that his family had filed a missing persons report with the SPD. The families fear was that the victim was suicidal and he had recently bought a shotgun." Another crime scene report by detectives Jim Yoshida and Steve Kirkland includes the line, "This is a suicide note directed to Courtney and (deleted) and signed Kurt Cobain (sic.)"
But if you think Courtney Love had good friends in the Seattle Police Department, she had even better friends in the King County Medical Examiner's Office.
Examining the Evidence
King County Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Nikolas Hartshorne was an old friend of Courtney Love and her ex-husband, James Moreland. During the late '80s, Hartshorne was in the business of promoting punk rock groups and happened to book Nirvana at the Central Tavern in Seattle in 1988. Nirvana eventually became the opening band for Leaving Trains, which was headed by Moreland.
Dr. Hartshorne conducted the initial examination of Cobain's body at the crime scene. He photographed the body, examined the shotgun wound, and emptied the contents of Cobain's pockets. Hartshorne noted that the body was at room temperature and was in the first stages of putrefaction, suggesting that Cobain had been dead for some time. Dr. Hartshorne labeled the cause of death a "self-inflicted shotgun wound" after examining the body for only a few minutes and was soon telling reporters, "I've never seen a more open-and-shut case of suicide."
However, normally a self-inflicted 12-gauge shotgun wound inflicts massive blood, skull and tissue loss, but the electrician who discovered the body said only that Cobain only had some "blood in his right ear." and officers on the scene instantly recognized Cobain's famous face, which was perfectly intact.
Initially, the Seattle Post-Intelligence reported that Cobain "was shot once in the left temple." But in a nationally televised photo that shows the rear right shoulder of Cobain's body, not one drop of blood can be seen on Cobain's white shirt or on the floor around him. If Cobain was shot in the left temple or anywhere else on his head, the right side of his body should have been covered with blood.
Despite these inconsistencies, Dr. Hartshorne, issued a death certificate citing as cause of death a "perforating gunshot wound to the head (mouth)." If this is true, all the blood must have exited from the left side of his body. More importantly, this specious death certificate allowed Courtney Love to cremate Cobain's body only one week after it was discovered, thus permanently destroying the most important piece of evidence in the investigation.
In response to media incredulity over the mystery wound, in June 1994 the medical examiner's office modified its verdict by saying that there actually was "no exit wound" and that "all of the shot stayed inside the skull." Dr. Hartshorne and his colleague Dr. Donald Reay then released a remarkable document that says Cobain suffered both a "contact penetrating shotgun wound to the head" and a "contact perforating shotgun wound to the head." But a "penetrating" wound is one where the bullet enters, but does not exit the body. A "perforating" wound is one where the bullet both enters and exits the body. Why couldn't they make up their minds?
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Nov 15, 2004 15:21:29 GMT -5
COURTNEY DIDNOT KILLKURT KURT KILLED HIMSELF YOU SICK f**kS We have proof that Kurt was killed and Courtney played a big role. Whats your proof that she didnt kill him. Is it cause she's a goddesss?? She couldnt have killed him because she's a goddess?? Or is it because the Seattle Police Department assumed it was a suicide by the looks of it. Boy was their run through of the scene insufficient.
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Nov 16, 2004 16:51:22 GMT -5
the seattle police sucked at examining the crime scene. they saw the supposedly " suicide" note and linked it immediately to a suicide. in statistics though the moajority of suicides don't even leave notes. they normally don't even think it over, they just do it.
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Post by Gingerukr on Feb 2, 2005 7:39:11 GMT -5
Ppl, I read all this nuts & don't understand where does it come from..... It's a show-business: when someone famous dies so early ppl always start talkin'... they can't accept it as smth that can happen to anybody. they start telling fairy tales. U can find millions proofs of anythin'! but u'll never find out the truth! NEVER! Who cares was Kurt murdered or not??? He's dead now. Almost 11 years past, but u still keep talkin'! An amazing person left us - it hurts so much... & maybe we should finally stop profaning his memory? He's much higher than all this dirty stuff. If u really love him just listen to his songs - that's the best thing u can do.
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Post by HippieChild on Feb 2, 2005 15:32:58 GMT -5
That's got to be the stupidest post I've read in a long time. Who cares if he was murdered?? It's been almost 11 years so the hell with it? Oh well, in that case, let's free all the murderers. Here's an idea, let's free Mark David Chapman; true he killed John Lennon but hey! that was over 23 years ago! I'll just play his Double Fantasy album over and over and forget all about justice because that's the best thing I can do! Idiot. I don't care if it takes 11 more years; whoever is responsible for this man's death, for ANY person's death, deserves to go to jail. If Courtney is responsible, just because she has "a really cool band" doesn't make her above the law.
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Post by Gingerukr on Feb 6, 2005 14:53:27 GMT -5
2 HippieChild: well, the smartest person in the world, u r surely an idealist. I didn't say it's pretty cool to kill ppl. It isn't for sure. But this world isn't perfect, can u believe that?? Too many ppl kill other ppl & don't get a punishment for that. It's sad, but it's true. I was just tryin' to say, it's time to stop this long-lasting show, called "Who Killed Kurt & when we'll f**k this pregnant dog Courtney". U'll never know the truth, I'm tellin' it once again. I'm sure u all know that. but u don't stop... that's what stupid for real!
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Post by HippieChild on Feb 6, 2005 19:04:44 GMT -5
guest gingerukr wrote:
If you think it's so stupid why are you wasting your time here? This is a forum that debates the murder theory, whether you like it or not. Maybe you can accept the fact that people kill each other all the time and get away with it, but when a man dies under circumstances that are very suspicious, any man, and the finger of suspicion points at his spouse, he deserves a proper investigation, whether or not he's a junkie, a street person, or a rock star. Furthermore, we have the right to be concerned about justice for Kurt and we have the right to be in this forum and discuss our concerns. If you think it's so stupid then don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
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Post by PigWomanCourtney on Feb 6, 2005 19:27:50 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]I have to be completely and totally honest. I have no opinion on this matter whatsoever. The whole theory bores me to tears.
I remember Kurt's death & all of the media around it. It died out & I never gave it any thought. Personally I think he was crap, he was sick in the head and Grunge was totally overrated and all it was was Heavy Metal all over again. Except without the spandex & hairspray.
When the "Courtney killed Kurt" thing came about. I thought "Yeah she probably did do it, that sh*t eating wh0re... another reason to hate her lousy guts."
That's it. I'm only here to rag on Courtney for being a big, fat, ugly overexposed, self absorbed no talent b*itch-pig in soiled knickers. Does this make me wrong?
PWC xx[/glow]
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Post by HippieChild on Feb 6, 2005 20:01:42 GMT -5
Pigwomancourtney wrote:
LOL, nope, piggy, this is, afterall, an anti-Courtney Love board and while some of us debate the murder theory, your entitled to hate her as much as you want. Besides, your posts make me laugh and when "guests" come and call us names for expressing our opinions I love the way you rip into them. If they don't believe the murder theory and come soley to bash us, they deserve what they get. ;D
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Feb 6, 2005 20:06:06 GMT -5
haha. yeah pwc i hate her or dislike her with a passion not only because of the murder thing but just because she is a bad person who gets away with too many things.
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Post by f**ked up luv on Feb 7, 2005 7:10:37 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Another one that needs to slide under a lorry and taste her own blood. Why are there so many stupid people on this board?
Go suck Kurt's rotted off genitalia you thick as pig sh*t kangaroo f*cking Aussie b*tch. PWC[/glow] someone would hav thought you would have ben banned by no.regency correct?mmmmmm yes.
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