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Post by Bada05 on Nov 9, 2004 19:19:21 GMT -5
Hello Everyone: I wanted to post some of my findings regarding the death of Kurt Cobain, and I wanted to do it for free and with public access in mind to prove that my research was done solely for the purposes of letting a young man's soul finally rest, and not for financial gain. First of all, I went to Aberdeen , Olympia, and Seattle years after Kurt's death becuase I did not want to be "jumping on the bandwagon" as so many others have done. I was able to speak with various family members, teachers, and friends of Kurt who provided solid evidence that his death was not a suicide. For example, according to one family member, Kurt was terrified of guns, and refused to even pick one up unless it was unloaded. Another example is that the cigar box, the note, and the drug perephenilia were all placed to the right of Kurt's body, something a left-handed person would not naturally do. In addition, and most disturbingly, the media did not tell you that a member of Kurt's family found his body on April the 7th, 1994, with a shotgun carefully placed on his chest. When they returned with the police (the next day), this person was surprised to find a different gun, a sawed-off shotgun at the scene. These are just a few examples of the inconsistencies surrounding the apparent "suicide". So, for the sake of time and space, I will leave you with a summary of my findings: 1. Kurt was getting ready to leave Nirvana, he wrote a farewell note to fans, but the last section of the note was added in someone else's writing to make the note appear to be a suicide letter. 2. One of Kurt's friends was payed to purchase the murder weapon, and then deliberately lead investigators away from the crime scene. This person knew that Kurt died on April the 4th, but said nothing due to fear of legal action or death. Some law enforcement officials were also paid to delay the investigation. 3. The amount of heroine (which turned to morphine), would have incapacitated even the most hardened of drug addicts, making the task of picking up a rifle and actually pulling the trigger virtually impossible. Even if Kurt had picked up the gun, his fingerprints were nowhere to be found. 4. The triggerman lives in the Los Angeles area, and was paid over $60,000 to kill Kurt, use his mental illness against him, and make the "job" look like a self-inflicted gunshot wound. For more information, please feel free to e-mail me, but out of respect for the family and those interviewed, no names or personal information will be released.
This project was conducted in Kurt's honor, and for the peace of mind of his family. I pledged never to make money from my research, I only wish to let the truth be known. Kurt Cobain was murdered.
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Nov 9, 2004 20:49:04 GMT -5
i believe kurt was murdered. but what family member found kurt? i thought an electrician found him and i thought kurt enjoyed hunting and shooting so how could he be terrified of them... ?
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Nov 9, 2004 21:33:14 GMT -5
Yes, it is true that an electrician discovered Kurt's body on April the 8th, but when the family member notified the authorities about the discovery of the body on the 7th, an official report was not made until the next day, leading this individual to believe that a cover-up was taking place. They later found out that a number of detectives were given money to delay the investigation. To answer your question about Kurt's love of guns and hunting. All I can tell you is that each family member I spoke to (on different occasions) were ademant that Kurt was terrified of guns. I never met Kurt, I cannot verify if he ever went hunting or not, but I can tell you that the subject never arose when I asked about Kurt's hobbies, interests and so forth. Thank you for the reply. I look forward to disclosing as much information as I can, and I apologize for not revealing the identity of the family members. I promised I wouldn't do that.
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Post by Bada on Nov 9, 2004 21:37:10 GMT -5
Sorry "Love Stinks", I accidentally put your name on my post!
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Post by HippieChild on Nov 10, 2004 9:31:38 GMT -5
Interesting. I wonder if that's part of the "smoking gun" evidence Tom Grant has yet to release. He claims he's withholding information until the case is reopened and the evidence is pretty d**ning. The mystery continues......
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Nov 10, 2004 12:02:00 GMT -5
Yes an electrician did find him. And the dirty old ba.stard called a Seattle Radio Station before he called the police.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Nov 10, 2004 12:04:50 GMT -5
I read Kurt was going to go hunting with his dad but when the day came the 'idea of killing animals for fun wasnt so fun anymore". So Im guessing he never went hunting. However he did collect guns. I have never heard of him using any of these guns before however. Besides the one he "blew his head off" with.
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Post by HippieChild on Nov 10, 2004 12:06:32 GMT -5
Some people will do anything to see themselves in the media and feel important. It is sickening. I went to college with a Gary Smith (the electricians name). He was a nasty little gnome of a man who treated people like nuts. He use to poke fun of me all the time (I wouldn't date him.) Finally my boyfriend took a friend of his who was in the National Guard reserves and they paid him a little visit. Little bastard never bothered me again. I wonder if it's the same little gnome? It sounds like something the guy I knew would do.
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Post by HippieChild on Dec 8, 2004 18:30:36 GMT -5
Well, my curiousity got the best of me so I copied this post and e-mailed it to Tom Grant and was shocked when he e-mailed me back, as he usually doesn't answer his e-mail. I feel so special! ;D
Anyway, regarding this posters findings, here is what he said:
Hi Jane, Without judging this person's intentions or motives, I've found several examples of fabrication, either on the the part of the writer or the person who gave her, ("erin"), the information. To be honest, it sounds like Hank Harrison, (Courtney's father), probably had something to do with providing at least some of this misinformation. I don't have the time to go into every detail, but the most outrageous, totally fabricated detail I found here was the following: "...the media did not tell you that a member of Kurt's family found his body on April the 7th, 1994, with a shotgun carefully placed on his chest. When they returned with the police (the next day), this person was surprised to find a different gun, a sawed-off shotgun at the scene." This is absolutely untrue and totally fabricated. In addition, "Erin" says the autopsy reports are public. That's also not true. In fact, I guarantee she does not have a copy of the Medical Examiner's report or autopsy. I don't know what to tell you. She may mean well, but she's putting out bad info. That can't serve any purpose but to confuse and distract from the truth. Thanks for writing. I hope that helps. Tom
So there you have it; this poster is either terribly misinformed or a fake. Therefore, I refuse to take anything she says seriously unless she has some pretty solid evidence to back it up.
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Post by bada74 on Dec 8, 2004 20:46:42 GMT -5
Here is a copy of an e-mail that I sent to Tom Grant as well. I hope you find it helpful. Also, I've only posted what I have been told. It was not my intention to fabricate or mislead anyone. I'd also appreciate some advice...Do you think its possible that Mr. Harrison would intentionally lie to make it seem as if Kurt were murdered?
Dear Mr. Grant, My name is Erin, and I recently posted my research regarding the death of Kurt Cobain on the website, "Anti-Courtney Love". Although I appreciate that you gave me the benefit of the doubt, and did not assume that I was intentionally trying to mislead, I do not understand why you made some of the claims that you did. First of all, if the autopsy report is not public information, then how did I read it? I am nobody, just a fan. Secondly, I have spent a great deal of time talking with Kurt's family and friends, and I have no reason to believe that they lied to me. The only reason anyone agreed to talk to me in the first place was on the condition that I not conduct the interviews on a "for profit" basis. I was told that the gun in question was "switched", this is not something I simply came up with. I greatly appreciate the work you are doing, and I have to say that you've inspired me to look into the matter myself. A response regarding this matter would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by HippieChild on Dec 9, 2004 16:02:08 GMT -5
I don't know Hank personally so I really can't speculate whether he would deliberately lie or not but I can say that even though he apparantly has an agenda, I think he truly believes Kurt was murdered and Courtney is responsible for it. I've read a few things he's said and saw his interview in the clip from "Kurt and Courtney" and frankly I thought he came off as a buffoon, a braggart and a lousy father. ANY parent who would publically denounce his own child, whether she did it or not, is a piece of s-hit in my book. But I must add that he knows Courtney better than anybody and knows what his daughter is capable of. If Hank Harrison is the person you got your information from, I would seriously question it's validity. He seems to have his own idea of what went down and claims to have a "mystical connection" with the son-in-law he never met but Grant pretty much dismisses him ad states that he serves only to discredit the case. As far as what the other family members told you, I can't really comment. I know that Tom Grant has not released all of the evidence yet to the public and I don't know what he has up his sleeve, but I do know that the claim that Kurt's body was found on April 7th with one shotgun on him and on April 8th it was switched, I find that highly improbably. He was clutching the gun so tightly that it had to be pried out of his hands due to rigor mortis, so if the guns had been switched the person doing the switching would have had to wrestle with the gun to get it out, then somehow find a way to get his arms to wrap around the new gun which would be impossible to do without causing some damage to the corpse. It would have been noticed and noted in the police report. I didn't mean to sound like a biatch with my last post; I've been pretty irritable lately because of a 4 day long migraine and stupid insurance won't pay for the medication I need until Sunday. I do know, however, that if anyone would know if the information you got was valid or not, Tom Grant would since he's been working on the case for over 10 years now. If he responds to your e-mail, please let us know. I'd be very interested in what he has to say.
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KURT SHOT HIMSELF IN THE HEAD
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Post by KURT SHOT HIMSELF IN THE HEAD on Aug 2, 2008 17:12:24 GMT -5
Spark some pot."
and worship the devil.)
RAWR!
I did it.
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Post by Melissafent75 on Feb 16, 2020 18:50:49 GMT -5
Kurt told me that the body they found was not him amd that they kidnapped him amd put him somewhere else.He also said the person didnt even look like him amd he jad no idea where they got the person from
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