From KR: WEIRD

[HippieChild]

This was posted at KR today. The user uses a different s/n but I think it's HER. Read this s-hit!



11-29-04, 02:05 AM
irginia_viva
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 244


f**k, courtney is so f**king lost.

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its so sad. i mean, come on, shes been living in f**knig la for years now, and its sad, shes a rock woman, she should get out of there fast, and look for some crazy poets around the world to be their friend n stick to the them.....i understand her ambition, having monwey, having power, having fame, i do not criticize her for that, its really cool to have those ambitios and u get what u want, even better....but i mena come on, what kind of life i she livinig= courtney love is a f**kin artyisi..courtey get out of there quick.take your daughter with you. you no its f**kin insane to raie a child in la. you know it. its not f**kin human. until you go bACK to being an artist and living an excentric beautiful life, but not a fake one surrounded by lame lamelamelamemalmaelmaepeo ple, to me you are dead. im sorry.....get your f**kin chit together....this has nohing to do with you taking drugs or not i give a f**k aabout your legal situation remember the days when art was your fukckin reason for livi ng? sing me a song courtney, even if its the laST THING YOU DO, DO IT

[HippieChild]

That typing is identical to the ramblings she's typed in previous posts. The only difference is, she's under a different screen name and addressing herself. She doesn't seem to have learned a thing; she still wants her "stuff" her "rock star status" and has learned nothing of life from her mistakes. She remains shallow. She's just using a different s/n to state what's on her mind and make it look like it something someone else said to her. A few posters at KR had already caught on. and called her on it but there hasn't been any response yet.


Will she ever learn??

[Danielle Loves Kurt]

Asking Courtney Love to not be shallow is like asking George W Bush to not be a fundamentalist Christain whose a member of the Christain Right. That's how she is and it's never going to change. Yes it's wrong.


TAKE NOTICE PEOPLE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T GO TO ENGLISH CLASS. Quite terrifying actually.

[Andrea]

Hmmm interesting - I still see the denials about all the drug taking... It seem to be a common theme in Love's communications, ie, it's not the drugs, the drugs have nothing to do with it, I wasn't on drugs, etc. She'll never make any real progress until confronts this issue and comes clean about her junkie past, most of all to herself.

Drugs have played a major part in her life (25 years?) and she's always given me the impression that she's enjoyed taking then, I wonder if she'll ever be able to stay off them completely and recognise the error of her ways? Axxx

[Danielle Loves Kurt]

She most likely doesn't want to come clean about her drug life in public in front of strangers. Celebrities have private lives too. And why does she need to tell you?

[lovestinksyeahyeah]

ha courtney keeping her life private? this is the woman who let a guy she didn't even know suck on her boob outside of wendy's.

[HippieChild]

She most likely doesn't want to come clean about her drug life in public in front of strangers. Celebrities have private lives too. And why does she need to tell you?

That's a pretty lame defense. Courtney not only flaunts her private life, she embellishes it. She's been caught on more than one occassion telling outright lies about herself and Kurt. She tries to paint herself out as being a bad-girl rocker who is so cool she is above the law but it backfired and instead she's being viewed as more of a criminal. She's tried in the past to act all "anti-drug" to the public, even going as far as to denounce Seattles drug ring, only to find out not only was she on drugs but she was a snitch for the police, making her a frightening menace among the drug dealers who knew she had the power to rat them out. How can she expect a "private" life when she's exposed herself, both physically and mentally, to the public on repeated occassions, often lewdly to the point where they teeter on pornographic. She loves the attention, be it positive or negative; in her mind she is the rich little "rock star" playing out the ultimate rock-and-roll fantasy. As she ages though, this act becomes more and more pathetic, and in an effort to justify herself she exposes more of her private life, like making her OD "fun" for Frances" and again exposes herself to the public. You can't turn the page or turn on the TV without seeing or hearing her name. Each incident is worse than the last one until it has reached such proportions she's become tabloid material. The ultimate degregation, to resort to tabloid TV to become "notorious." Ugh.

Private life? She doesn't want one. Her craving for drama leaves her wide open to the public and we see more than we care to of her "private life." Being able to trash Kurt in the process is the icing on the cake for her. It makes for better press.

My little thought for the day before I get my kids into their princess pajama's and begin the never-ending process of getting the little buggers to bed. I bought them $186.00 dollars worth of princess stuff, spreads, comforters, pillows. Now let's hope they get the hell out of my bed! Jim and I are feeling crowded.

[Danielle Loves Kurt]

This my theory about Courtneys famemonger streak.
Like most celebrities who came before and most who will come after Courtney Love only wannts a private life when it suits her. Madonna suffers from the same disease you know. Just remeber guys the most notorius people are the ones who are remembered.

Women looking smashed rock? This has far more to do with image than strength. Courtney Love is a prime example of a woman using an image to sell records. From a very long time rock has been connected to drugs. These women are merely making themselves appealing to a certain auidence who finds the rock star myth enthralling and interesting. The power of image has latched onto these women. It has nothing to do with whether they actually to do drugs or not it's about mythology and the whole obsession with people like Sid and Nancy. I am not a fan of the Distillers I find their music very dull and bland but the bad ass look Brody has adopted is spun of pure desire to be able to sell a million records.

I offer Courtney Love as an example. Way back when she was wild and out of control taking drugs and punching out anyone who happened to say the wroug thing at the wroug time. In my opinion this is when Courtney wrote good music. But then she went to Hollywood and scrubbed herself clean. She got french manicures and lined her lips instead of smearing them. However, the image overhaul didn't benefit Courtney because now she has gone back to bawling and brawling. Unfortunetly the music still sucks [my opinion]. She has a rock record to promote. And this does get her in the headlines.


It's not sad at all [for them] because they are laughing all the way to the bank. I do think that in Kurt Cobains case he has serious drug issues which is why he usually hid it from the press. Courtney Love on the other hand is a mediavery *friendly* person who loves to be noticed. If she get her best friend to suck on her breasts for the paparazzi she'll appear as a drug nut for them.


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[Andrea]

Uhuh! Probably why I'd rate Patti Smith above Courtney Love. She's a better mother. She more of a musician than Courtney Love could ever hope to be, and she has something that Courtney could never attain: dignity.

Once again, I have to agree with HippieChild as we share the thoughts. I've always thought that Courtney Love was a terrible phoney. She works too hard 'playing' at being the bad girl rock star and often it's a sad cliche. Her relentless, shameless, famewh0ring disgusts most people.

"She most likely doesn't want to come clean about her drug life in public in front of strangers." LOL ;D We are talking about COURTNEY LOVE! Mostly remembered for her prodigious drug taking, her acts of violence, and showing her tired ol twisted tits to anyone who cares to look! I don't care if she's a celebrity! And yeah, I think that it's a sad way to cling onto celebrity. That puts her just above Anna Nicole Smith, and Paris Hilton, but way below many other celebrities and women in rock. Deborah Harry has more film credits.

So when you talk about images you really have to look at the whole spectrum.

[Danielle Loves Kurt]

Andrea, you didn't read what I wrote I said Courtney Love wants her private life when it suits her and because she's a very public person the paparazzi can't tell the difference.

AND YOU THINK PATTY'S A BETTER MOTHER BUT SHE'S A HEROIN ADDICT TOO. Talk about playing favourites with the exact same object.

[Andrea]

Danielle, Paparazzi my a$$! Courtney Love phones up editors directly. Who was the musician who said that after spending time with her? It's no secret that she paid writers in the past to put out her lie-o-graphies... Judging by her illiterate deranged postings on KR it doesn't suprise me that she has to pay for co-writers on her albums as well.

Patti Smith has never lost custody of her three children - not even once. Please, think about that one. Courtney Love has lost custody twice due to... paparazzi overdose? ha! only kidding, no, DRUGS! That dumb ol' broad didn't learn the first time. I wasn't aware that Patti Smith WAS a heroin addict. Please enlighten me... I'm not saying that she hasn't taken drugs at some stage of her career (she wouldn't be the first), but it's news to me to learn that she is a heroin addict, as you say. Not read any stories about Smith going into rehab, or overdosing, and frankly at 58 as an addict, I'm suprised that she's still alive! As for Courtney, my dear, well... don't get me started... now there's one who doesn't deserve to be alive.

[lovestinksyeahyeah]

bravo andrea. superb post.

[Danielle Loves Kurt]

Guest-Andrea said:

Danielle, Paparazzi my a$$! Courtney Love phones up editors directly. Who was the musician who said that after spending time with her? It's no secret that she paid writers in the past to put out her lie-o-graphies... Judging by her illiterate deranged postings on KR it doesn't suprise me that she has to pay for co-writers on her albums as well.

Patti Smith has never lost custody of her three children - not even once. Please, think about that one. Courtney Love has lost custody twice due to... paparazzi overdose? ha! only kidding, no, DRUGS! That dumb ol' broad didn't learn the first time. I wasn't aware that Patti Smith WAS a heroin addict. Please enlighten me... I'm not saying that she hasn't taken drugs at some stage of her career (she wouldn't be the first), but it's news to me to learn that she is a heroin addict, as you say. Not read any stories about Smith going into rehab, or overdosing, and frankly at 58 as an addict, I'm suprised that she's still alive! As for Courtney, my dear, well... don't get me started... now there's one who doesn't deserve to be alive.

The only reason Courtney lost custody of Frances because of the Strange love article by Lynn Hirshberg. [which had alot of lies in it] [..]. If you are refering to Patti Smith than she was definitley a smack addict and never had kids. But if you're refering to Patti Schemel, the drummer of Hole than she used heroin too. So who are you talking about? You're just playing favourites.

How can you be so aggrogant to think you can decide who deserves to be alive or not? If you want to wish death on someone chose someone who deserves it. Not a rock star. Choose a dictator or someone who forces people into slavery. That's far more worth the effort than the stupid game your playing that doesn't matter at all.

[HippieChild]

The only reason Courtney lost custody of Frances because of the Strange love article by Lynn Hirshberg. [which had alot of lies in it] [..]. If you are refering to Patti Smith than she was definitley a smack addict and never had kids. But if you're refering to Patti Schemel, the drummer of Hole than she used heroin too. So who are you talking about? You're just playing favourites.

Courtney Love lost custody of Frances because of her drug use when she was pregnant. Period. Lynn Hirshberg's article was based not only on the interviewing of Courtney and Kurt, but on their friends as well. One of the people interviewed mentioned that Courtney was obviously pregnant and shooting up and she wrote what she heard. Courtney never sued Lynn Hirshberg because if she had, that would have opened a new can of worms and she never would have gotten Frances back. All that could be done was damage control and Kurt and Courtney spent 250,000.00 to get their daughter back, rather than make it a bigger public scandal than it was. Hirshberg continues to stand by her story and after reading the article a few weeks ago, I can see how it would raise a few alarms. It is not Lynn's fault that Courtney lost custody of her baby; it's Courtney's. Kurt's too, for that matter.

As for losing custody of Frances the second time, the blame is also on Courtney. I have stated repeatedly that there is NO excuse Courtney can offer to explain her OD around an 11 year-old and then calling it "fun." Courtney deserved to lose Frances over that one and in order to get her back she is going to have to remain clean. Frankly, I don't think she can do it. She's doing the steps and so far has remained clean but I read in a concert review how she stated on numerous occassions "They rehabed I disagree." as if she wanted no part of the rehab, she just let "them" do it. I'm going to be watching her very carefully after she completes the 18 month program. Nine months down, three to go. After she's completed the program she's done what the court ordered her to do; now is she going to keep it up or go back to her old ways?

As for Patty Schemel using heroin, Patty is not the one who is in and out of court for various reasons stemming from drug charges to assault. Patty Schemel is not the one who calls editors and pays for her own publicity. She is not the one posing for lewd pictures with homeless men sucking on her breasts and she is not the one who married Kurt Cobain and had his child. She is not a person surrounded by notarioty, but a drummer for a band who got caught up before getting her act clean. Whatever drug use Patty was involved with, it was low-keyed and obviously she did what she had to do to get clean and stay clean.

I see no "playing favorites" here what I see is a woman who has pushed herself so far into the public eye that speculation regarding her character is every where. The existance of this very board is because of Courtney and her craving for attention; I think she's pleased beyond measure that anti boards like this exist. So much the better to keep her in the limelight. You seem to be making excuses for her, Danielle, and it's getting very frustrating because your giving Courtney the benefit of the doubt, and with a person like Courtney you have to remember, she ALWAYS has an ulterior motive and to assume that she is the object of favoritism, another form of victimization, Courtney would immediately seize upon that and use it to her advantage. She has no shame, she has no morality. That is why she is one of the most-watched woman of this time. Stop excusing her. She has no excuse. And she's loving this.

[Andrea]

Danielle, it's now obvious to me that you don't know who the hell Patti Smith is, or anything about her (she has 2 kids by Fred 'Sonic' Smith and was also widowed) . Maybe that's excusable due to age (not that I know how old you are). Maybe you are thinking of Patty Smyth or Patty Schemel. Anyway this isn't a Patti Smith board so it's not important. Information is free. Here is a list of VH1: 100 Greatest Women of Rock & Roll:

www.rockonthenet.com/archive/1999/vh1women.htm

This was compiled 5 years ago in 1999 when Courtney Love (as Hole) had some credibility. If this was compiled today I'd be surprised if Love or Hole even featured. The trouble with Courtney fans is that they are not very bright, they have no perspective as to how crap she is, even as a person. As a celebrity she's probably now on the E list. Courtney Love for all her delusions of greatness has a long, long way to go before she's classed up there with the big names that she likes to throw around so much as though she is one of them: "I'm a catalog artist: I compete with Bob Dylan", "Go through my lyrics. They're great. I'm the best writer of this generation." Yeah, right! Only in Love's sick little drug-fried head. Only some retarded Clove fan is gonna swallow that one. The woman is a bad joke.

OK back to the pregnancy: 5 days after Frances was born somebody leaked Love's medical records to the press revealing that while in the hospital she had been receiving daily doses of methodone to treat narcotics addiction - which means that she didn't stop using drugs UNTIL she entered the hospital, which totally supports Hirschberg's article based on many claims from the people around Courtney Love who had reportedly seen her doing drugs during her pregnancy. So why give a known pathological liar the benefit of a doubt? Furthermore we are talking about a women who's first husband later stated that he would never forgive her for chosing to abort their child because of her refusal to give up drugs. It's a rather naive stance to think that her behaviour is excusable in any way. She's a disgusting irresponsible person. As HippieChild rightly states, the woman has no morality.

Danielle, you've written some good posts in the past which I've enjoyed reading but to start excusing Courtney behaviour is really rather sad. Courtney Love as an advocate of drugs and violence is not somebody who deserves respect but condemnation - she makes the world a dirtier place for the rest of us and sets a bad role model for immature (and somewhat idiotic) fans who think that her behaviour is somehow 'cool'. They might think differently if they where smacked in the head by a mic stand or had a mother that was a hopeless drug addict and relentless famewh0re with no real values. Axxx