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Post by JOVAN on Jan 3, 2005 2:02:07 GMT -5
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPECULATE. I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT I THINK IT IS VERY SAD OF PEOPLE WHO POINT FINGERS . WITH THE ONLY REALITY OF THE "STORY" THEY HAVE IS THE ONE THEY READ IN THE TABLOIDS.. WHAT WAS THAT LAST WORD I SAID.. THATS RIGHT, TABLOIDS. I PERSONALLY FEEL FOR COURTNEY. IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN FACED WITH DEATH OF A LOVED ONE OR A PERSON CLOSE TO YOU. YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IT IS THE HARDEST THING TO OVERCOME. AND FOR PEOPLE ACCUSING YOU FOR THE DEATHS. MAN, WHAT A ROAD TO OVERCOME. I USED TO BE THIS HARDCORE COURTNEY FAN- WHO USED TO DRESS LIKE HER... NOW, I AM SIMPLY A FAN WHO HAS BEEN FOR 9 YEARS. WHO LOOKS UP TO HER FOR THE STRENGTHS THAT SHE POSSESSES AND HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS AFTER THESE DEATHS. COURTNEY IS A MUCH STRONGER PERSON THAN YOU. AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE SHE DOESNT ACCUSE YOU OF MURDER. THINK ABOUT IT..
JOVAN IN HOLLYWOOD
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Post by Andrea on Jan 3, 2005 15:39:59 GMT -5
Jovan
I've just read your post.
"COURTNEY IS A MUCH STRONGER PERSON THAN YOU. AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE SHE DOESNT ACCUSE YOU OF MURDER. THINK ABOUT IT"
I'm thinking about it... And this is illogical and nonsensical.
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Post by Andrea on Jan 3, 2005 15:57:33 GMT -5
"I had to go over there and get Eric away from the body. Kristen had been his lover for a really long time. He'd already broken down bathroom door after bathroom door for her." (Courtney, Rolling Stone, December 15th 1994).
This is an interesting statement. The implication that Kristen Pfaff was O/Ding all the time. She wouldn't be implying that Pfaff was suicidal would she?!
Naturally Courtney's statement is erroneous as it was Paul Erickson and not Erlandson who broke down the bathroom door and notified 911.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Jan 3, 2005 16:42:21 GMT -5
"I had to go over there and get Eric away from the body. Kristen had been his lover for a really long time. He'd already broken down bathroom door after bathroom door for her." (Courtney, Rolling Stone, December 15th 1994). This is an interesting statement. The implication that Kristen Pfaff was O/Ding all the time. She wouldn't be implying that Pfaff was suicidal would she?! Naturally Courtney's statement is erroneous as it was Paul Erickson and not Erlandson who broke down the bathroom door and notified 911. Courtney lied
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Post by HippieChild on Jan 3, 2005 18:41:42 GMT -5
SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Jan 4, 2005 19:17:06 GMT -5
haha. ;D
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Post by amanda on Jan 27, 2005 17:18:48 GMT -5
"IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN FACED WITH DEATH OF A LOVED ONE OR A PERSON CLOSE TO YOU. YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IT IS THE HARDEST THING TO OVERCOME." i completely agree. but by saying that you're only supporting my beliefs that courtney hired someone (particularly allen wrench) to murder kurt cobain. i have dealt with the death of a loved one, someone not nearly as close to me as a HUSBAND, and it brought me down for months. less than 2 months after kurts death, courtney was already dating, and continued with all her band work. now tell me if those are the actions of someone who's still "overcoming the death of a loved one." just think about that.
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Post by FREEfrancesbean on Mar 1, 2005 17:57:02 GMT -5
Sorry if this is a stupid Q but........ Who the hell was she dating just 2 MONTHS !!!! After Kurt blew himself away?
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Post by Croatian Boy on Mar 18, 2005 21:13:52 GMT -5
hey just curious what you guys thought happened to her because i somehow think it was linked to courtney. i read about it in some books and it sounds suspicious. she was leaving Hole and went to move some stuff out of her apartment and ended up dead in her bathtub from a heroin overdose when she was clean from drugs for a year. by the way i somehow see a comparison with kurt's death. wasn't he on heroin also? that must be courtney's drug of choice. it's just strange and sad because kristen seemed very nice and was trying to escape courtney but ended dead instead. well just wondering what you guys think because i believe kurt was murdered and was linked to courtney but i also think courtney had something to do with kristen's death and we can't forget her too. kurt and her were good friends too. Lmao dear 'lovestinksyeahyeah' A portion of the proceeds of the sale of this recording goes to Kristian Pfaff Memorial Fund and M.A.P This are the last words on 'Celebrity Skin' album ! There goes your answer.
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Mar 18, 2005 21:21:30 GMT -5
ouch that hurt coming from a croatian boy. seriously what does that have to do with the subject? i know you're going ot say courtney loved her see. no actually kristen left the band because of courtney.
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Post by Andrea on Mar 18, 2005 21:27:02 GMT -5
"I met Courtney for the first time at the Phoenix Festival in England 1993. She was never able to look me in the eye and I could never figure out why. I thought she was very rude. I never trusted her and I could see how she treated Kristin. When Kristin told me she was quitting Hole, she told me that she would never rejoin them, no matter how successful the album was. She wasn't quitting Hole, She was quitting Courtney. She just couldn't stand to be around Courtney anymore, especially after Kurt's death. I think she was scared of her. She wanted to make a new start."
INTERVIEW WITH JANET PFAFF, KRISTIN'S MOTHER
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Post by Croatian Boy on Mar 18, 2005 22:04:13 GMT -5
ouch that hurt coming from a croatian boy. seriously what does that have to do with the subject? i know you're going ot say courtney loved her see. no actually kristen left the band because of courtney. Ohh yea it does coz you are pointing your finger again ! As for Andrea now why would a person need 2 years to realise that . Where the hell did u get that crap ?
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Post by Andrea on Mar 18, 2005 22:16:40 GMT -5
As for Andrea now why would a person need 2 years to realise that . Where the hell did u get that crap ? Oh Croatian Boy, Your english is getting so much better! It's from a taped interview conducted with Janet Pfaff by the authors Max Wallace & Ian Halperin. Since 'that crap' is in print, I'm sure that Janet Pfaff would have sued if it was incorrect. In the USA we sue people at the drop of a hat. Do you want excepts from Kristin Pfaff's journal next?
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Mar 18, 2005 22:22:03 GMT -5
pointing the finger? no just trying to understand your reasonings behind your comment about the celebrity skin cd. but i better be quiet i know how you hate me having the lasat word.
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Post by Croatian Boy on Mar 18, 2005 22:28:00 GMT -5
Oh Croatian Boy, Your english is getting so much better! It's from a taped interview conducted with Janet Pfaff by the authors Max Wallace & Ian Halperin. Since 'that crap' is in print, I'm sure that Janet Pfaff would have sued if it was incorrect. In the USA we sue people at the drop of a hat. Do you want excepts from Kristin Pfaff's journal next? No, no Andrea dearest your reading is getting better my english is the same. Aren't does guys from that 'justice for Kurt' site muhahaha yea right ! Anyway so what if Courtney and Kristien didn't get along ? What? Did Courtney had to do something with her death too ? Lmaooo
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