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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Jan 10, 2005 18:38:50 GMT -5
yeah if he's ambidexterous i can see the doubt but if he wrote left handed then reflex might have came into affect like neitherside said. and as far as donald i don't really know too much about him but he didn't seem too bad. i think the problem between kurt and him grew when he remarried and gave attention to his new wife's children. but hey in my personal opinion i favor donald over kurt's mother. in reading "love & death" it seemed like she used kurt to her advantage. i don't know though. i did notice a note or letter in kurt's Journals to his father telling him he didn't hate him and that he respected him as a father.
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Jan 10, 2005 18:42:16 GMT -5
ah i regretted by those "journals" though not only because it was like stealing from a dead man but because you can tell courtney helped them piece together only certain entries in the book. i noticed there was nothing in there about her other than good words to her. big suprise.
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Post by Danielle on Jan 10, 2005 22:05:48 GMT -5
Sorry my source on Kurts ambidextrous[ness][?] is the book Never fade away. Good little pocket sized book. I believe the author also wrote for Rolling stone. Also, I have a poster of Kurt on my wall that was taken in that famous Eurpean photo shoot where Kurt has the gun in his mouth. In some of those photos Kurt is holding the gun with his right hand. He was ambidextrous.
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Post by NeitherSide on Jan 11, 2005 5:42:38 GMT -5
Dear Danielle. That is definitely not THE gun, because he bought it in March 1994 and he never went into public since the Rome incident. In fact I know three photos with Kurt holding a gun, one of which he has it in his right hands. Maybe the print was mirrored horizontally for easthetics? This is often done to fit text etc.
Plus, don't be stuburn and look at the facts: Kurt used his left hand 99% of the time in favour of his right. Kurt designed a Fender guitar specifically made for left-handed people (Fender JagStang). He wrote left. Besides, if he was twohanded, he would never have gone through the trouble of taking all strings of a guitar, reverse them, retune them, etc. He would've played it right-handed. Remember that left-handed guitars were hard to come by in the late 80's - early 90's, so they would reverse an ordinary guitar (like Jimi Hendrix).
Most of the pictures found with Kurt using his right hand were mirrored. I got pictures of Kurt as a kid when "playing" guitar, he was holding it left-handed. I got pictures of Kurt eating a sandwich with his left hand. A truly ambidexterous person would result in way more pictures using his/her other hand. Three or four pictures in a series of thousands statistacally don't prove anything.
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Post by Danielle on Jan 11, 2005 8:14:46 GMT -5
Dear Danielle. That is definitely not THE gun, because he bought it in March 1994 and he never went into public since the Rome incident. In fact I know three photos with Kurt holding a gun, one of which he has it in his right hands. Maybe the print was mirrored horizontally for easthetics? This is often done to fit text etc. Plus, don't be stuburn and look at the facts: Kurt used his left hand 99% of the time in favour of his right. Kurt designed a Fender guitar specifically made for left-handed people (Fender JagStang). He wrote left. Besides, if he was twohanded, he would never have gone through the trouble of taking all strings of a guitar, reverse them, retune them, etc. He would've played it right-handed. Remember that left-handed guitars were hard to come by in the late 80's - early 90's, so they would reverse an ordinary guitar (like Jimi Hendrix). Most of the pictures found with Kurt using his right hand were mirrored. I got pictures of Kurt as a kid when "playing" guitar, he was holding it left-handed. I got pictures of Kurt eating a sandwich with his left hand. A truly ambidexterous person would result in way more pictures using his/her other hand. Three or four pictures in a series of thousands statistacally don't prove anything. I wasen't stating that the gun used in the European photo shot was THE gun I was merely pointing out he held it in his right hand while he was eh posing [for need of a better word]. I admit I'm stubborn but don't use that reasoning just because I disagree with you. That is being stubborn.
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Post by HippieChild on Jan 11, 2005 9:57:42 GMT -5
The gun in the shot was a toy gun. Even Courtney admitted as much. She released a cropped picture of Kurt holding it to his mouth but later the real picture circulated and it turned out his friend Youri Lenquette, who was the photograhper asked him to pose that way. What Neitherside says is true about photograph's "reflecting" so it could appear that Kurt was holding with his right hand when in fact it was his left. I've heard of this, though my husband knows more about it than I do because he's worked with photographers before. I'll ask him. I do remember a story I heard years ago about a picture that showed a clock reading 3:00 when in fact it was 9:00. There were no numbers on the clock, just lines like this: | It was a crucial piece of evidence in a murder trial to determine what time it was when the suspect supposedly committed the murder and since it read 3:00 he couldn't possibly have done it; then a photographer testified how the picture was "reversed" through the development, making the relm of possibility very strong. This was years and years ago, but I do remember reading about it, though I admit I don't remember who was on trial or what it was for. Anyone remember a case like that?? God I'm old. Senility is creeping in.
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Post by HippieChild on Jan 11, 2005 10:00:14 GMT -5
His name??
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Post by HippieChild on Jan 11, 2005 16:39:32 GMT -5
I got this from a webpage called "Benjamin's Nirvana." It doesn't prove anything regarding Kurt's ambidextrous ability, if he had one, but it's interesting.
Was Kurt in fact ambidextrous? after extensive research and study into this (I typed "Kurt Cobain" and 'ambidextrous' into Google') There are no conclusions. Ambidexterity is one of those things people often claim they have in order to make themselves appear cool - along with manic depression and sometimes even dyslexia. For Kurt to actually have been ambidextrous is indeed genuinely cool. This photograph (if genuine) would prove once again that Kurt was naturally cool - gifted coolness by God. If anyone has any information about Kurt's hand sexually drop me a line!
The photograph he's referring to supposedly shows Kurt writing with his right hand and is claimed not to be "flipped."
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Post by anarchy for the usa on Jan 16, 2005 9:35:21 GMT -5
The gun in the shot was a toy gun. Even Courtney admitted as much. She released a cropped picture of Kurt holding it to his mouth but later the real picture circulated and it turned out his friend Youri Lenquette, who was the photograhper asked him to pose that way. What Neitherside says is true about photograph's "reflecting" so it could appear that Kurt was holding with his right hand when in fact it was his left. I've heard of this, though my husband knows more about it than I do because he's worked with photographers before. I'll ask him. I do remember a story I heard years ago about a picture that showed a clock reading 3:00 when in fact it was 9:00. There were no numbers on the clock, just lines like this: | It was a crucial piece of evidence in a murder trial to determine what time it was when the suspect supposedly committed the murder and since it read 3:00 he couldn't possibly have done it; then a photographer testified how the picture was "reversed" through the development, making the relm of possibility very strong. This was years and years ago, but I do remember reading about it, though I admit I don't remember who was on trial or what it was for. Anyone remember a case like that?? God I'm old. Senility is creeping in. there she goes again with her crap. stop reciting monologues you got off anti courtney sites andget yr own opinions I've seen everything you post on other sites you parrot. Yes senility is creeping in your forgetting whre you pick all yr arguemenst from.
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Jan 16, 2005 12:43:44 GMT -5
what are you so angry about? because we can actually get facts to back up our opinions? chill out.
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Post by HippieChild on Jan 16, 2005 13:19:50 GMT -5
Hmm...does this typing look familiar to anyone? It sort of rings a bell....
Reciting monologues from anti-Courtney sites....that's really funny! This is the only anti-Courtney site I come to and my facts definately don't come from here. LOL you really need some kind of anger management. And maybe somebody to help you assimilate your "others" back together. You give new meaning to the phrase "falling apart."
Fit of pique quite over? No? Well, you just let me know when your done. In the meantime, the grown-ups and I want to talk.
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Post by bri on Mar 22, 2005 12:05:28 GMT -5
i write with my right hand, my right hand is used for strumming my guitar and if i had a gun in my hand i'd use my right hand.
was kurt exactly the same as me but with his left?
is it unbelievable that my bandmate Joe writes with his left hand but plays guitar the same way as me? and why does he play snooker/pool the same way as me? (badly! - no he uses his right hand on the bottom of cue...)
If I found Joe dead I would not have a pre-conceived idea what hand he'd use to hold the gun, nor would i be surprised which one he used...
if I decided to kill my mate Joe and make it look like suicide, where should I place the gun? As we are friends I've known for years he's left handed...
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Post by sher on Nov 1, 2006 15:27:51 GMT -5
I think they should reopen the case.kurt did not kill himself. one lady had all the reasons to want kurt dead .kurt said himself courtney was mean .she probely abused him when he was at his lowest. I think its a sad world to let kurts death pass by . sad sad sad .one day someone will answer for hurting him.
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