Danielle Loves Kurt
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Nov 15, 2004 1:06:30 GMT -5
Not only does the media exagerate it Courtney exagerates it to so she can create press for herself. Your aren't a celebrity if you aren't in the public eye and Courtney knows that. I think that's why she is in so much trouble at the moment because she is trying to resurrect her old bad girl image which first created her career.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Nov 15, 2004 15:42:19 GMT -5
Not only does the media exagerate it Courtney exagerates it to so she can create press for herself. Your aren't a celebrity if you aren't in the public eye and Courtney knows that. I think that's why she is in so much trouble at the moment because she is trying to resurrect her old bad girl image which first created her career. Yeah that probablly is the reason she is in court. I wish she would let the bad girl image rest for Frances' sake. |
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Nov 16, 2004 3:15:03 GMT -5
Yeah so do I. But you see I think her fans like her crazy. It does make her more interesting. It shifts units that's all it is. It creates a radio friendly unit shifter. Hollywood is so f**ken sad. Her exageration of everything is the reason she is in court. Courtney wants to be a bad girl again not a fresh faced thin Hollywood starlet.
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Post by HippieChild on Nov 16, 2004 10:11:12 GMT -5
The problem with that is her "bad girl" days should be long gone. It's called growing up. Lot's of celebrities have done it. To name one, Sean Penn. I remember when he first surfaced in the early 80's he had a reputation for punching out people, namely media. He had a horrible temper and was a pain in the ass to work with. But as he got older, after a brief marriage to Madonna, he married Robyn Wright and had a family and calmed down. He become a bit humbler and more centered as he took on the role of husband and father. Today he is one of the most respected actors out there. He is amazing. He doesn't try to hide the fact that he's aging, he embraces it and weaves it into his craft so as he matures, so do his performances. The last movie I saw him in, I forget the name, but he played a mob man with a teenage daughter who was murdered. Seeing his gray hair and the affection his character showed his daughter made me realize he's come along way from "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" character.
If Courtney would adopt the same attitude toward aging she would not only have a chance to perfect her art through natural growth but she could begin to mend her tarnished image. She'll never be a "Debbie Reynolds" nor would anyone want her to be, but if she accepts the dignity that goes with the aging process she might have a chance. Even bad girls eventually grow up.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Nov 16, 2004 14:35:13 GMT -5
The problem with that is her "bad girl" days should be long gone. It's called growing up. Lot's of celebrities have done it. To name one, Sean Penn. I remember when he first surfaced in the early 80's he had a reputation for punching out people, namely media. He had a horrible temper and was a pain in the ass to work with. But as he got older, after a brief marriage to Madonna, he married Robyn Wright and had a family and calmed down. He become a bit humbler and more centered as he took on the role of husband and father. Today he is one of the most respected actors out there. He is amazing. He doesn't try to hide the fact that he's aging, he embraces it and weaves it into his craft so as he matures, so do his performances. The last movie I saw him in, I forget the name, but he played a mob man with a teenage daughter who was murdered. Seeing his gray hair and the affection his character showed his daughter made me realize he's come along way from "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" character. If Courtney would adopt the same attitude toward aging she would not only have a chance to perfect her art through natural growth but she could begin to mend her tarnished image. She'll never be a "Debbie Reynolds" nor would anyone want her to be, but if she accepts the dignity that goes with the aging process she might have a chance. Even bad girls eventually grow up. Yes, but she sure doesn't wanna grow up. In her lyrics she stated "Im too young to be this old". |
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Nov 16, 2004 18:38:44 GMT -5
Courtney was robbed of a childhood. She was deciplined by pitballs thanks to her stefather, left with therapists by her mother and was in juvenile hall by 15. I belive she's acting up now not only to satisfy the crazied media but to satisfy herself. She wants to be a child again and have what everyother child had. People say that Courtney has become ugly due to her controversy. But no one levels that arguement at celebrities like Madonna. Hey at least Courtney didn't mass print a book of naked photos of herself.
If you could be kid forever without a care in the world would you do it?
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Post by HippieChild on Nov 16, 2004 20:15:23 GMT -5
Oh boo-hoo for Courtney. Danielle, I'm sorry but that argument doesn't wash. Lot's of people were robbed of childhood one way or another but they don't do the things she has done. I'm not excusing her parents, but Courtney is 40 years old and accountable for her actions. If recapturing her "robbed" childhood means letting strangers...oh sorry, best friends, suck on your breast while your picture is taken and splashed all over the internet and tabloids, the her idea of childhood is pretty d-amn sick. It's fine to want to recapture the youth and innocence of childhood but she's getting in touch with her bratty, juvenile delinquent side and frankly it's very unbecoming.
The difference between Courtney and Madonna is when Madonna had a baby, she smartened up. She mellowed out, toned down her image, and behaved responsibly. Even when she does something that raises eyebrows, like her infamous "Britney kiss" (and by the way...ew!) she made sure her kids didn't see it. She's taken an interest in writing childrens books and is even starting a school. Courtney hasn't changed one iota since her days before Kurt. She's still out of control, still making bad choices, and still craving that celebrity status that elevates her above the rest. She's desperate for attention and that's all there is to it.
Perhaps now that she's sobered up she'll see the light and change her wild ways, but that remains to be seen. For her sake, I hope she succeeds this time.
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Nov 17, 2004 5:40:17 GMT -5
Madonna toneed down her image? Yeah right that's why she was indulging in her lezibian fantasies with Britney Spears in front of the world. She has also become a religious nut who won't talk to anyone who isn't in the same Jewish sect as her. Toned down I disagree she became more wacked!
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Post by PigWomanCourtney on Nov 17, 2004 7:18:22 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Madonna is a much bigger c-unt than Courtney & she's a gappy toothed, lizard faced horror with a fake English accent and she is a control freak wacko.
I agree w/Danielle, though it pains me to do so, HOWEVER, have to agree with HIppie, McDonna (over billions served) toned her slapper self down considerably after she gave birth to her chimp faced daughter.
The tongue sandwich with Britney was a reminder of her sleaze-bag past. Her peak of filthiness came with the Sex book. UGH! What a nasty wh0re!!! 10 times the wh0re Courtney is. Courtney could only aspire to her slaggishness & repugnancy. A total cumdumpster.
These days she's keeping her legs closed but McDonna, is still a closed minded, manipulative, superficial, uncaring, cold, scummy pregnant dog who's muse was never anything other than the almighty dollar. She's no feminist or a champion of gay rights, she uses everyone & everything until it's no longer useful to her then she tosses it aside.
PWC
xxx [/glow]
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Post by HippieChild on Nov 17, 2004 9:19:39 GMT -5
As far as Madonna becoming a religious nut goes, I don't know, but I know she's studying kabbala which is based on the firm foundations of Torah, the Jewish Bible. (otherwise known as The Old Testament). She's also opening a private school for young students of Kabbala, with a regular school cirriculum. I'm not jewish but my husband is and I've come to respect alot of their traditions and beliefs. They don't have christmas but they get presents for 8 days to our 1. Pretty good deal if you ask me! ;D Anyway, I digress. She's doing something good for a change, she's investing in the education of children, giving them a chance at life. Don't get me wrong; I'm NO fan of Madonna. Her antics in her earlier years never failed to sicken me and I must agree with piggy's assessment of her; she's cold, manipulative, greedy and only out for her own interests. BUT she genuinely loves her children and takes an active interest in their lives. She writes childrens books, inspired by them, and while the reviews on the books have been less than flattering, at least she's trying. She is ever evolving and although she's in her mid-forties, she doesn't try to recapture her "lost innocence" of youth, she allows herself to evolve and grow and accepts herself as an aging diva. She doesn't fight it, like Courtney Love.
While I wholeheartedly sympathize with her awful childhood, many, many other people have been robbed of their childhood in so many horrendous ways and yet overcame it and allowed themselves to become responsible adults. Courtney has yet to do that; she still whines "poor me, I'm such a victim" as an excuse for every action and it just DOESN'T cut it! If she wants to "recapture her lost childhood" then take a carousel ride, but she needs to stop acting like a spoiled child and PLEASE stop showing us her breasts!
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Post by HippieChild on Nov 18, 2004 15:58:18 GMT -5
As far as the argument about the levels of heroin in Kurt's system, Danielle, I propose the following: You insist that Kurt had a high tolerance to the heroin due to frequent drug use and I say that even the most hard-core addict would never be able to sustain the amount of heroin in his system in order to roll down his sleeves, put his drug paraphenelia away, then position a gun in a precise position so that his head remains in tact and pull the trigger. His shoes were on so he couldn't have done it with his big toe either. We'll argue about the position of the gun after the initial explosion during another debate. (I'm enjoying this, aren't you?  ) So, in order for me to accept your theory of the high level tolerance then I need you to show me one other suicide case where the victim sustained high doses of heroin (not methadone and not pills; injected) and was able to perform tasks that were equal in effort to the tasks Kurt performed before he shot himself. Show me one other case of a person injecting himself with massive amounts of heroin and then was able to finish himself off by pulling the trigger of a gun. I'd bet you a million dollars (pounds?!) that you can find no other case. Show me Danielle and I'll believe. As it is right now, there's no evidence to support a "high tolerance" theory and every evidence to support murder. |
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Post by doll parts on Nov 28, 2004 21:30:10 GMT -5
all these things are just rumours. there not even real. u ppl are believin crap.
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Post by HippieChild on Nov 29, 2004 8:05:45 GMT -5
Honey, they're very real, not rumors. The autopsy report was leaked a few years ago and the heroin levels are fact, not fiction. It seems to me you are the one who isn't real; your blindly following Courtney because she's cool and has a great band and won't look at the facts of this case. I don't mind Miss World, Bree or Danielle supporting Courtney because they are open-minded and willing to see facts as they are despite their admiration for Courtney. You, however, are a major irritation. All you can say is you love Courtney, she is strong, she is a survivor, yada yada yada but when the facts smack you in the face you turn a blind eye and a deaf ear. I'm not saying Courtney was the one who killed Kurt because the evidence against her is circumstantial but somebody did kill him. Open your eyes and your mind and you'll realize that the facts of this case do indeed point to murder. Let me know when you finish puberty. Until then, I'm going to let Pigwoman deal with you. You give me a pain where the pill doesn't reach.  |
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Nov 29, 2004 16:26:12 GMT -5
all these things are just rumours. there not even real. u ppl are believin crap. Of course how silly of me its got to be a rumor its not in favor of Courtney. |
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Nov 29, 2004 20:34:28 GMT -5
Just wait a second their Hippie, I don't have any admiration for Courtney. wow I've beeen misunderstood.
I wonder who decided they could make alot of money by leaking the autopsy report?
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) So, in order for me to accept your theory of the high level tolerance then I need you to show me one other suicide case where the victim sustained high doses of heroin (not methadone and not pills; injected) and was able to perform tasks that were equal in effort to the tasks Kurt performed before he shot himself. Show me one other case of a person injecting himself with massive amounts of heroin and then was able to finish himself off by pulling the trigger of a gun. I'd bet you a million dollars (pounds?!) that you can find no other case.