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Post by COURTNEY RULES on Dec 9, 2004 6:18:50 GMT -5
have you read the journals of Kurt Cobain? In one section of it, he discusses how he and courtney go in to rehab twice, and she comes out clean.
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Post by HippieChild on Dec 9, 2004 14:42:41 GMT -5
Yeah she came out clean. Then she celebrated by shooting up.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 10, 2004 12:07:38 GMT -5
Courtney Love rules...COURTNEY LOVE RULES?!?!?!?!?!? How can ANYONE say Courtney Love rules? If you bothered to read any websites on Kurts murder then you would see that it all points to her...but I don't think we should give her credit on that because she's not that clever, she got somebody else to do her dirty work because once she offered somebody $50 000 to kill Kurt and they told the police then they were mysteriously murdered, well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to find out who did that! and if she's so inocent why wont she take Tom Grant to court and sue him?...well because she knows who killed Kurt and she knows they have enough evidence it was her so that she would lose, so...PUT THAT IN YOUR JOINT AND SMOKE IT! and for 'Get Your f**king facts straight' you could never have taken the lethal amount of heroin that Kurt had because as the name says, you'd be dead,also Kurt was found with 3 times the lethal amount in his blood system and some people after having taken the lethal amount once have been found with the needle still in their arms let alone 3, yet if Kurt did shoot himself he wouldve had time to put all the heroin back with the needle in a little cigar case, why don't you read some websites on Kurt's death so you can get YOUR f**king facts straight!
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Post by COURTNEY IS A CHAMP on Dec 31, 2004 20:24:38 GMT -5
Kurt had drug addictions, he had tried to kill himself previously. The day he KILLED himself he escapd rehab by jumping over the wall. Courtney tried to contact him, when she couldn;t she reported him missing. The main "evidence" that links Courtney to Kurt's death is that the handwriting on his suicide note is in different handwriting, but if you read his journals, the handwriting is basically different on every page.
I don't see why, nearly 11 years after his death, Courtney is still being blamed for his death. What did she gain by killing him? In her own rights, she is a talented musician, yes she did have drug problems, but then again so did Kurt.
This contempt shown towards Courtney is both horrible and stupid. By mocking her you are not going to get Kurt back.
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Jan 1, 2005 8:10:56 GMT -5
This is true Kurts handwriting changed constantly. You can see that in the journals. The passage that is ment to be written different in the suicide note is also passionate. People's handwriting becomes different when they write something that is that emotionally charged.
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Post by HippieChild on Jan 1, 2005 10:48:15 GMT -5
That might be a plausible explaination except for a few things:
Rosemary Carroll found in Courtney's backpack two very suspicious items; a paper with practice handwriting on it, and a to-do list which included get arrested on her list of things to do that day. Why would she deliberately plan to get arrested? Maybe to have an alibi when Kurt was finally located? Why was she practicing how to forge a note? The f's in the "suicide note" are remarkably similar to the f's courtney was practicing. It's not concrete evidence of her involvement, but it's very suspicious.
The note has been examined by a variety of handwriting evidence, most of whom have concluded that the last 4 lines of the note, ending in I LOVE YOU were written in a different hand. It is also the only part of the note that refers to suicide. The body of the note only speaks about how he no longer enjoys performing and is going to retire from the music business. Everything is written in the present tense and no where does it even remotely hint of suicide.
I can't except the note at face value given these facts. I want to know more. I want to know why Courtney was practicing forgery, why she deliberately got herself arrested, and why is the suicide note written in 2 different handwritings? These questions deserve investigating so we can finally close this case once and for all.
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Post by when heroes die on Jan 1, 2005 13:01:23 GMT -5
I am confused by this web site- is it entirely devoted to anti- courtney-ism? Why is sad thingy- Matty G and other sad porn mag scum on this site talking about boy-racer nuts-mobiles?
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Jan 1, 2005 16:20:31 GMT -5
I find it odd that the note has been officially examined by many handwriting experts when it's in Courtney's possession. They couldn't possibly look at the original thing. I want to see their reports.
All I know about the her getting arrested before Kurt died is that she was trying to get Benadryl from the room service staff and they didn't bring it up. She freaked and ran downstairs where she was greeted by the police the hotal had called because they feared she would overdose. They trashed her room and [according] to Courtney stole several pieces of valuable jewellery. Then they arrested her for drug possession. Of course the substance they thought was heroin was actually Good luck Buddhist ashes [they are a white powder]. I always heard the rumours that Courtney flew to Los Angeles for no reason. But there are two. 1] Courtney was promoting her forthcoming album and interviews do date from this period. 2] The doctors at the rehab clinic Exodus told Courtney to fly to Los Angeles in order to entice Kurt to follow her and enter rehab when he refused to go.
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Post by HippieChild on Jan 1, 2005 17:11:04 GMT -5
The original note is in Courtney's possession. Both Tom Grant and the SPD made copies of the note. Tom managed to get a copy from Courtney's fax machine and also pocketing another fax with her handwriting on it so he could compare the two sample writings. The SPD gave Courtney back the original but kept the copy, some of which were made public through either Tom Grant or leaks in the SPD, some of which agree Kurt didn't get a proper investigation but are afraid to speak out and say so for fear of reprecussions from the SPD. There are copies of the note posted all over the internet and it's been verified that it's the actual note. This information has been posted before in this board.
What you heard are rumors and fabrication. What happened was Courtney had spoken to Dylan that day while at Rosemary Carrolls, where she had stayed the night before. She told him, in the presence of her lawyer, "be sure to check the greenhouse" but for reasons unknown, he didn't. She then checked into the hotel, set up drug paraphenelia (needle and syringe) the ashes and a doctor's prescription pad. She then "overdosed" and placed a 911 call from her hotel room. She was brought to the hospital, released and promptly arrested. When the case came to trial there was a reasonable explaination for everything; the prescription pad was left by a visiting physician, the OD was actually an "allergic reaction to the prescription xanax" and the whole thing was dismissed. Pretty convenient I'd say. For months it was reported that Courtney and Kurt had made a suicide pact that went wrong and later it was revealed that it was Courtney herself that was feeding the press those stories.
Those are the solid facts, as verified by her own entertainment attorney as well as Tom Grant, who was with her for several months working on this case. He had a front row seat to Courtney's media dealings and some of her own admissions on tape that "all press is good press" and "it could sell records." Pretty cold words from a woman desperate to find her "suicidal husband." Couple that with the to-do list and handwriting samples I'd say there's plenty of reason for suspicion and further investigation is warranted before any conclusions of guilt or innocence are established. I'm not screaming "off with Courtney's head!" I'm just saying a proper investigation was never done and it's about time one was.
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Jan 2, 2005 4:13:41 GMT -5
Tom Grant f**ked up. Due to the fact that he took a piece of paper of Courtney's handwriting to compare it without her permission that's stealing. He had no warrant to seize the property so that would not be be admissiable in any court. Tom Grant continues to blow his own case.
Further, I don't know about the other stuff you've said because what I outlined in my original post was written in police files and is therefore real.
The problem with believing Courtney is guilty and suspicious of her is that it is making people break the law in order to defame her. So she would win because the people are blowing theirr own cases. That's not very intelligent.
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Post by HippieChild on Jan 2, 2005 10:22:42 GMT -5
Guess what--Courtney broke the law too. She filed a missing persons report under Wendy O'Connors name. You seem to be so familiar with the American judicial system so you must know that's ILLEGAL in this country. She also filed a false report claiming Kurt brought the gun after he left rehab when in fact the receipt found in his pocket indicated it was bought on March 31, 1994 BEFORE REHAB. False report, also illegal. She GAVE him the letter to copy so that makes it ADMISSABLE in a court of law and it doesn't take much to compare the handwriting samples. Leaving her backpack at Rosemary's house gave Rosemary the right to go through it; it was on her property. Pocketing a copy of a faxed letter to compare the handwriting samples is hardly a criminal offense. It would be laughed right out of the courtroom as our courts have REAL cases to work on. If it is illegal, which I doubt, it's at most, a misdemeanor and punishable by a small fine and a slap on the wrist. You need to brush up on the American Legal System; afterall, you don't know it thoroughly since you don't live here. Nobody broke the law except Courtney. If she were to bring Tom to court with defamation charges Tom said he would welcome it because it would force her to answer questions she obviously doesn't want to answer and may become the final nail in her coffin. She doesn't have a case against Tom, period. If she did she would have sued him years ago but she won't because she would open too many questions that need answering and da-mn herself in the process. She knows this; Tom has openly invited her to sue him and she won't do it. Those are the actions of a woman who has alot to hide.By suing Tom she is inviting OUR AMERICAN JUDICIAL SYSTEM to put her on trial for the murder of her husband. That's how it's done. There are none so blind than those who will not see.
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Post by lovestinksyeahyeah on Jan 2, 2005 12:57:44 GMT -5
good post. hippiechild what is happening to this board? we've got preteens who cuss like sailors and a person who apparently shaves their legs and has an obsessive posting disorder.
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Post by ILATO on Jan 2, 2005 20:16:07 GMT -5
good post. hippiechild what is happening to this board? we've got preteens who cuss like sailors and a person who apparently shaves their legs and has an obsessive posting disorder. I bet it's only two people. They're just using more than one screename to make it look like more people love Courtney then hate her.
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Post by Andrea on Jan 2, 2005 22:26:21 GMT -5
Ditto Hippiechild. We've seen this before when Bree lapsed into temporary Sybil-ism - but then came clean about it.
A lot of them are touting the same 'Kurt loved Courtney' line unaware or in obvious delusion that the Cobain marriage was over and that Kurt wanted to divorce Courtney and omit her from his will, before he suddenly died.
We all know that Courtney fans (there can't be many left - most of them grow out of it when they learn to read, but I guess that remedial classes are closed for the holidays) are a pathetic sad and desperate bunch. Can't understand why they don't stay on nutsty radio where they can slurp and gurgle about Courtney to their heart's delight. Maybe sycophancy gets boring after a while?... What part of ANTI don't they understand?
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Post by Lo x on Jan 12, 2005 10:35:33 GMT -5
For Chist's sake, dont you lot have anything better to do than sit around and pregnant dog about Courtney?
And HELLO, Kurt wasn't exactly clean himself so you're being a tad hypocritical about how Courtney is bad through and through because she does drugs. I Love Courtney's music, she's screwed up, yeah, everyone knows that.
I find it quite funny that you all sit around your PCs typing bad things about a celebrity who couldn't give a toss about what you're saying.
And if Courtney did kill Kurt, then something tells me she'd have been caught out by now, come on, we've caught murderers before and its not like Kurt wasn't screwed up, because he was. You're all just too girl thingy to admit it. Courtney and Kurt are as bad as eachother.
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