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[missworld]

If you hate courtney love that much why did you bother to start a whole web site about her? why not use the space for something a little more productive?

[ilovelayne55]

If you claim, as Courtney does, the “right to free speech” then we have every right to have this board. Or is it that you, like Courtney, feel that we should only say things about her that she deems positive?

We have every right to discuss the possibility of a murder conspiracy. You don’t have any “proof” that murder was not committed just as much as we don’t have any solid evidence that it was. That is why research into the issue is being conducted. If Tom Grant’s claims are legitimate, any intelligent person who has reviewed his case files would reasonably be led to conclude that, at the very least, she was behaving very suspiciously at the time of his death. Any justice that was due was not brought about through the official process at that time, which is why an ongoing independent investigation is being done. Neither you nor I can claim to have the official last word on whether it was indeed a murder or a suicide. We can only speculate and share information as it becomes available, which is one of the reasons for having this board.

Funny too, how you are here telling us “we’re wasting productive time” yet you are the one who has obviously spent quite a long time responding to practically every message on this board.

No time wasted, hun, rather there are some of us who understand enough to question authority and that the “official’s” last word was not necessarily the final word. Especially when it comes to an icon that matters to a hell of a lot of us.

[missworld]

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, yes, but not when their opinion is based on the lying media, their tv setd and newspapers, not when their opinion is harsh and unfair, not when their opinion has the potential to really hurt someone who has done nothing wrong. i just asked why bother having this board if you hate her so much, i mean why devote a whole site to a "murderer"? because, according to you lot, thats what she is. i just thought i'd pay a visit to every thread seeing as this message board was open for the posting, after all, we all have the right to freedom af speech, i exersised that right on this board. i couldn't care less how long i sit on this thing, this board shouldn't even exist. if you all have narrow minded views then keep them to your narrow minded selvs, hun.

[ilovelayne55]

In case you haven’t heard, Mr. Tom Grant has been an independent, licensed private investigator in the State of California since 1975. He was hired by Courtney Love to locate Kurt, then decided to launch his own investigation into the circumstances surrounding his death. He states that, in a letter he wrote to Courtney, that, as he was conducting the investigation, his “attempts to get at the truth often seemed to be deliberately hindered.” He also stated that in some of the articles he found in newspapers and magazines, he discovered the information being released to the press was “inaccurate and often cleverly misleading.” Elsewhere in this same article he writes the following:

“I studied media material and found it was full of planted stories and misinformation. One story had Courtney grieving at home, while she was actually calling me from Canyon Ranch in Arizona and bragging to me that she was sleeping with Billy Corgan. This was only three weeks after Kurt died!” (Source: www.cobaincase.com/events.htm#21)

Now, I ask you, in what way could these statements be construed as lying or unfair? If true, then who was being deceptive? Do you understand the significance of this alleged cover-up?

I understand that you are all about defending Courtney and her alleged innocence. But what if you're wrong?

[missworld]

the fact ids that you've just proved a point i've made, you're following and trusting the media. Guess what, the media lies. the point is that the people on this message board are basing their arguements on things that they've seen or read, you have a whole section dedecated to courtneys bad press, how lame.

[Ilovelayne55]

Ms World. The possibility being raised here in this article is that Courtney may have been trying to make it look to the media that she was grieving over Kurt’s death when in fact she was not. “Planted stories”! Who was planting them??

[missworld]

the media was planting them, at the end of the day newspapers and reporters need a story to keep you drones happy otherwise they don't get paid, do you get the basic concept? newspapers & reporters lie. they add things and take things away to make "good" reading for people like you.

[ilovelayne55]

Ms. World dear. I was not asking you who planted them because I didn’t know the answer. Rather, I asked you who planted them to see if YOU could figure it out! Let me spell out for you what Mr. Grant is implying here. The article Mr. Grant is citing INDICATES (now, of course, we are not in a position to say CONCLUSIVELY) that it was COURTNEY who was planting the stories, to make it look TO THE MEDIA that she was at home grieving over her husband’s death, when in fact she had been out messing with some guy!

Is that the picture of a widow who is beside herself over her husband's untimely death??

She could have easily paid someone off to plant these stories, she has the money! And it appears she herself is well aware of how easily the media can be manipulated!

[missworld]

she should know how easily the media can be manipulated, she is plagued by planted storys that peole like you request by reading them. why can't you people leave her alone to live her life? back to my original question, why make a website dedecated to a "murderer" as i believe you've labeled her, i believe you didn't really give me a proper answer.

[PennyRoyalT]

courtney plants her own stories. go to [urlhttp://www.cobaincase.com/events.htm#6][/url]. i would take a private investigators word over hers. oh and by the way he isn't the media. why not make a site like this? if you don't like it leave. i don't go around on her fansites asking people why they love her. the fact is, she had something to do with kurt's death. and yes the media does lie sometimes but, it's her fault she's going to court not theirs.

[missworld]

no, the media lies all the time, at the end of the day they need to make money. we don't all love her, we can just see the truth and don't hold narrowminded opinions like you lot. i find it disgusting that this exists and i won't go away, i am exersizing my right to freedom of speech. you personally may not go on the websites but there is a whole section to "how many times have you been thrown off hole.com", so yes some of you do. so why can't i speak my mind here?

[PennyRoyalT]

fine you speak your mind, I'll speak mine though too.

[kobob]

miss world, you are a hypocrite. You support free speech but say this site is disgusting and shouldn't exist. You know nothing about the media. Using blanket statements like "the media lies" is a cop out and just proves that you're ignoring the facts. i don't think you've even looked at the tom grant's investigation because you're scared to question your beloved idol. Any reasonable person can see the validity of Grant's findings. That doesn't mean Courtney's a murderer but it's a possibility. I know that if Kurt was member of your family you would want to know if he was murdered or not.

[Melora]

"You ever talk to Tom Grant?"
"Tom Grant? The name sounds familiar."
"He's that crazy investigator guy [who claims that Kurt Cobain was murdered]."
"Oh, *that* motherf**ker. Uh, no. I think he's just a dipnuts. A total incompetent. I was with him for three days when he came up here. He is a total incompetent. He couldn't find his ass with a map."
Dylan Carlson dsl.org/earth/dylanint.shtml

[kobob]

People believe what they want to believe. You'll disregard all the stories in the media unless they say something favourable about Courtney. Same as taking a random quote from Dylan Carlson. That proves nothing.