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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Oct 18, 2004 11:33:21 GMT -5
I dont feel he is god.I feel he is an amazing musician and I admire his opinions on subject such as sexism,homophobia,feminism,ra*pe,ect. There are a few people on this board who call him a God and since they dont want to listen to logic that he was not a God that there isnt a God then I will talk to them in a manner they will understand and respect.Kurt did not want to be called a God and by saying this he would be very much distraught by reading it.As for you Courtney fans who love using the diss that Nirvana fans have shrines of Kurt and pictures of him in a showcase with a light shining down on it I have something to say to you as well.There are more post saying "Courtney is a goddess" than posts saying "Kurt is God". Think twice before you post saying we think he's god,we're jealous because Courtney fu*cked him,we dont wanna face the fact that he killed himseldf (which is not true since there is physical proof that you just love pushing aside). You admire Courtney and we dont because she is a bad role model who has a past history of assualt,table dancing,stripping,threats,getting sexualy active with strangers,and other acts of violence.Lets leave it at that because those are the most common reasons that people hate her.
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Oct 18, 2004 12:23:24 GMT -5
I agree that Kurt is not a God. However he is a masssively talented musician and visual artist. He is my true inspiration.His opinions regarding sexism,feminism,,rape,hommophobia and much more I also agree with and I look up to him for making those protests Further I agree with your sentiments about Courtney having a bad trackrecord for violence but I would argue that there is worst people that Courtney/Hole fans could look up to such as Hitler or Stalin.People have the right to look up to anyone they desire. The redeeming quality of Courtney Love is her strength and maybe that is why the people who post 'Courtney rules' on this forum look up to her.For all her bad points Courtney is strong, ambitious and sometimes even witty.She can write quite a nice rock tune too.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Oct 19, 2004 15:48:43 GMT -5
"She can write quite a nice rock tune"
Half the sh*it isnt even hers. All the song on the album Live Through This were supposed to be realeased by Nirvana but Kurt died before it could happen.Sure she has the right to his music but she doesnt have the right to steal it and take all the credit for it.http://woundedbtrfly.proboards18.com/index.cgi?board=contribute&action=display&thread=1098199388
Go there for further information.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Oct 19, 2004 15:50:35 GMT -5
Yeah Hitler and Stalin suck but Courtney Love is a present day train reck so thats why most of us focus on her.
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Post by PigWomanCourtney on Oct 19, 2004 16:19:24 GMT -5
I agree that Kurt is not a God. Let's get this straight... I'M GOD!!! PWC
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Oct 19, 2004 17:43:00 GMT -5
Let's get this straight... I'M GOD!!! PWC That I can agree with ;D
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Oct 20, 2004 4:33:44 GMT -5
I doubt Kurt wrote Live through this. The songs would have been so much better if Kurt had of written them. The guitar playing doesn't sound like Kurt anyway. I also doubt that Kurt would have had the vanity to write something like the song Miss world. That doesn't add up. Even if Kurt did write LIVE THROUGH THIS Courtney still wrote some nice tunes on Pretty on the Inside.
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Post by PigWomanCourtney on Oct 20, 2004 13:27:59 GMT -5
You just need 300 more posts and you too can be God. PWC
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Post by HippieChild on Oct 20, 2004 13:36:17 GMT -5
Hey Danielle, to be honest I'm kind of leaning toward the fact that Kurt may indeed have written LIVE THROUGH THIS. I said in an earlier post, after listening to some of the songs, that I sensed Kurts influence and given Courtneys track record I could easily believe that he did write it; especially if there are recordings of Nirvana singing the songs on the album first. Perhaps they were leaning in a different direction musically when Kurt died. And Andrea's post makes alot of sense; it gave Kurt control over Courtney; he could pull the album from her at any given time AND it explains Krist and Dave's hostility toward Courtney these past 10 years. Not that Courtney didn't do a good job on the album; she did. But if she didn't write it, she should give credit where credit is due. It also explains why America's Sweetheart did so badly; it didn't have Kurts "flair" that influenced LTT. Veeeery interesting.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Oct 20, 2004 20:26:11 GMT -5
I doubt Kurt wrote Live through this. The songs would have been so much better if Kurt had of written them. The guitar playing doesn't sound like Kurt anyway. I also doubt that Kurt would have had the vanity to write something like the song Miss world. That doesn't add up. Even if Kurt did write LIVE THROUGH THIS Courtney still wrote some nice tunes on Pretty on the Inside. "The guitar playing doesn't sound like Kurt anyway"Have you ever listened to Intesticide? That sounds nothing like his other stuff.And the diffrence between Nevermind and Bleach is unbelievable Bleach is more heavier and the guitar has much more distortion. Kurt's method of guitar changed a lot he would experiment with diffrent riffs ect. So it is likely that he wrote it. I also doubt that Kurt would have the vanity to write something like the song miss worldKurt was in touch with his feminine, affectionate side other than the macho tough a*ss look.He could very well have written that song and Courtney could have changed the stuff around like guy to girl and Mr to Miss. There is a very good chance that Kurt Cobain wrote since Dave has a demo tape of Nirvana preforming all of the songs on Live Through This and has about a 92 second demo of it as a hidden track on the Foo Fighters album One by One.Too much to be a coincidence.
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Post by Danielle Loves Kurt on Oct 22, 2004 6:08:30 GMT -5
One of the things I love about Kurt was his feminie side. I think that is what made Nirvana so interesting compared to all the other major rock bands at the time. But Miss World was a song that was vain and selfish. I don't believe Kurt wrote it because of how self serving that song is. The only time in Nirvana wrote a song that was slightly selfish was Pennyroyal tea and Courtney co wrote that with Kurt. I know that Kurts guitar playing changed alot through time and hey isn't that a good thing? But I can hear more Kat Bjelland infulence and that was Courtney's idol not Kurts.
I believe that Kurt was major musical and personal infulence on Courtney but I don't believe Kurt wrote Live through this. Courtney [and Eric] wrote a great record with Pretty on the inside so why couldn't they do it again? . I didn't know about the demo of Nirvana playing the songs from Live through this but Courtney use to play songs off In Utero all the time when she toured in 1995.
Those two records, In utero and Live through this are odd, I see them as two view points on a similar situation and both are amazing [although Live through this hasen't got anything on In utero]. Why would Courtney change Mr world to Miss world? It loses it's point then doesn't? Kurt wasen't self indulgent enough to write Live through this.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Oct 22, 2004 14:31:09 GMT -5
How can you explain that Nirvana recorded those songs before Live Through This came out and proof is the demo on One by One which is a secret track.
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Post by HippieChild on Oct 22, 2004 14:40:31 GMT -5
That's what I'm trying to figure out. If Courtney wrote "Live Through This" why is there a recording of Nirvana singing the majority of songs? At best, Courtney could claim that she wrote it but Kurt recorded it originally then decided to give it back to her. And that makes no sense. If she spent all that time and energy writing an album, and given her determination to become a famous rock star, why would she just give it away, even to her husband? This was an important album, it established her career. Nobody in their right mind would just give it to someone, no matter who they were. It doesn't make sense. If Kurt did, in fact "help" her write the album, and then gave it to her, why didn't she give him the credit he deserved? Especially in light of his death; it would have been nice to know that this was some of Kurts final work. What do you think is going to happen now? I intend to follow this story. If anyone comes across anything regarding this, could you please post it? Thanks!
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Oct 22, 2004 14:45:48 GMT -5
Sure I found something on Digital Nirvana Ill PM you the link Hippie.
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Post by itslikeatradeoff on Oct 22, 2004 15:21:03 GMT -5
Need Convincing? Here is proof that Kurt/Nirvana was involved with Live Through This. Three songs on Live Through This which were Violet, Asking For It, and Miss World were under Side Projects on Digital Nirvana Song Guide.This is proof that Nirvana and Kurt were involved at the least in Live Through This. Link: www.digitalnirvana.net/songguide/
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